User talk:Toughpigs/archive

Nice work! on Trouble for Lucia article. Thank you.

Dcotos (talk) 20:04, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Dcotos! Toughpigs (talk) 21:46, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Toughpigs, I just wanted to send a quick thank-you note for fixing my reply under Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Companion (Doctor Who) a couple days ago (simply by removing a colon before the bullet point so that it wasn't indented). I've only very recently been getting into editing beyond very casual copyediting and your fix helped me when I made the same mistake again just now. Cheers! Irltoad (talk) 15:56, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Irltoad, I'm glad that I could help! Here's another tip, if you're not aware: there's a button that says (thank) next to entries on history pages, diff pages and your watchlist, so if you want to quickly thank somebody for a good edit, you can click that and they'll get a little message. But obviously a personal message is even nicer! Cheers, Toughpigs (talk) 16:02, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the tip! I had actually seen that before but couldn't find it on this occasion - my eyes must have skimmed over it. Thanks for letting me know where to find it for future reference. Irltoad (talk) 16:21, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why you undo my edit on Bearly Asleep? what do you mean by not an improvement? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.113.159.27 (talk) 00:31, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The sentences that you added are not correct English grammar. For example, "That angers Donald who throws glass at him who scream at them "Quiet!!"" is not understandable in English. Toughpigs (talk) 00:37, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I see. hmm, maybe we can keep it and improves the grammar. I am still learning on how to improve grammar. What do you suggest on how I can improve my grammar. 75.113.159.27 (talk) 02:00, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I made some more changes to the description that address some of the things you wanted to do. I don't know if I can help you with your grammar. Are you in school? Toughpigs (talk) 02:51, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am 17, but I am still thanking you for using the description I wanted to do. I am going to improve grammar. Also, one thing to add. Angry, Donald yells at Humphrey to be quiet, and returns to his house, grumbling about the bears. In the cave, Humphrey starts snoring, and the other bears kick him out. add throw cup of glass at him. so it can be like this Angry, Donald throw a cup of glass at Humphrey. Donald yells at the bears to be quiet, and returns to his house, grumbling about the bears. In the cave, Humphrey starts snoring, and the other bears kick him out. 75.113.159.27 (talk) 03:00, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I added a note about the glass. Toughpigs (talk) 03:01, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Everybody make a mistake, like in grammar. 75.113.159.27 (talk) 03:07, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I found the source to confirm Lydia Edward's birthday.

Here is the link: Sen. Lydia Edwards’s Celebrates Birthday in Eastie With Community Members – East Boston Times-Free Press (eastietimes.com)

It said December 13 meaning Lydia Edwards turned 42 in 2023.

Happy Late Birthday to Lydia Edwards! 75.113.159.27 (talk) 05:25, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please add Progressivism and Democratic Socialism to the ideology of Spainish Socialist Workers' Party? I am having trouble with it, so will you please add the two? Thank you! I tried to add these two, but it goes off. 75.113.159.27 (talk) 12:36, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse Me, about my edit on Goldilocks and Jivin' Bears., can you keep my edit while improving the grammar since It appear I forgot to improve grammar again. 174.135.36.220 (talk) 19:43, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I don't think the article needs that edit. You've split one sentence into two sentences, but you haven't added any extra information. Toughpigs (talk) 19:47, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Like what? 174.135.36.220 (talk) 21:43, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly, that's my point. The reader doesn't need anything there in order to understand the scene. Toughpigs (talk) 22:14, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I actually mean by what edits? I know your point, though. 174.135.36.220 (talk) 22:19, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I mean by what edits. 174.135.36.220 (talk) 02:17, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying. Toughpigs (talk) 02:48, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was referring to like what edit on Goldilocks and Jiving Bears. 174.135.36.220 (talk) 07:20, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The one that I linked above is this edit. Toughpigs (talk) 18:35, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To Remove the poster, because it won't be Public Domain until 2025. Hjajajsbbxb12 (talk) 20:01, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I added a comment in this discussion on the talk page. We should discuss this as a group on the talk page, rather than revert the article back and forth. We don't want to have an edit war about this. Toughpigs (talk) 20:10, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Short is not in the Public Domain yet, it stays copyrighted until January 1, 2025. Hjajajsbbxb12 (talk) 20:41, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Hjajajsbbxb12 Nobody has added the short film into the article. Your point is moot. The poster is in the public domain and its copyright has nothing to do with that of the film, which expires on 1 January. You've been repeatedly told this and still won't cease to push your incorrect point of view. Bedivere (talk) 20:43, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, that poster is not very interesting, and I'm not sure why people are fighting over it. If it's exactly the same as an image that's used on another page, then it doesn't add anything new to the reader's understanding of the topic. I think that the screenshot that I uploaded is a better representation of the topic anyway. Toughpigs (talk) 20:47, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

According to IMDB, The Barn Dance is from 1929, So it won't be Public Domain until January 1, 2025. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0018675/ Hjajajsbbxb12 (talk) 20:55, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let's talk about it on the talk page, not my user talk. It's best to keep this conversation in one place. Toughpigs (talk) 20:57, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This user Allan Nonymous has a long list of articles about Israel to delete without providing a clear reason why. Be that the user is a Antisemitism where can I report these intolerable attitudes. --Acartonadooopo (talk) 18:43, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Acartonadooopo: Allan Nonymous is making strange choices about which articles to nominate for deletion. I understand why it feels annoying to you. BUT: DO NOT ACCUSE HIM OF BEING ANTI-SEMITIC. You can think that if you want, but if you say it on Wikipedia, there is a very good chance that you will be banned for violating the policy called No personal attacks. You will not be able to argue the case for keeping these articles if you're blocked. Toughpigs (talk) 18:57, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Toughpigs The articles about Israel proposed by the user Allan Nonymous to delete are: Israel–Hamas war in Israeli music, Maor Ashkenazi, Noam's Song 2, and Noam Bettan (where it does not recognize the musical notoriety of the artist and previously added a template to delete) All these examples raise the alarm of a possible Anti-Israel subject and possible Antisemitism at first I thought it was a persecution of me and my contributions that I make so that the user stops monitoring my articles and contributions and not having more bullfighting with that guy HELP.--Acartonadooopo (talk) 19:05, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am trying to help you on those AfDs, which I agree are pretty obviously notable subjects.

But I can't be any more clear than this: DO NOT ACCUSE HIM OF BEING ANTI-SEMITIC. You will likely be blocked if you keep doing that. Please never do that again. Just focus on the articles. Toughpigs (talk) 19:08, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And apart from that he accuses me of harassment when he is affecting all my articles with these deletion queries and if you see the list it also seems to include projects by Palestinian rappers to delete. In the last few hours I received 3 lists of articles to delete where you don't even see the sources that helped create those articles, it is simply deleted by PROMO but only to my articles and others. I request a distancing from said user towards my contributions and creations. I'm exhausted yesterday I tried to improve Noam Bettan's article and I feel like it's for fun, I know they're going to delete it sadly. --Acartonadooopo (talk) 19:15, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's always scary and sad when your article is put up for deletion, especially after you've added so many sources. I've responded on the discussions for Maor Ashkenazi and Israel-Hamas war in Israeli music, pointing out sources that I think are valid. I'm not sure if the nominator is evaluating the Hebrew sources or not.

Other people will also look at these nominations and vote Keep. I think these are going to be okay. The best thing for you to do right now is to leave the nominator alone, and let the process continue. Complaining on people's talk pages will not help. Being patient and leaving it alone will help. Toughpigs (talk) 19:23, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your opinion on this. Must also have to be aware of the other articles that I was creating Gal Adam, Yoshi (musician) has not templated it yet, Thanks for your advice, Wikipedia is a collaborative place--Acartonadooopo (talk) 19:52, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me, could you give a review, linguistic cleaning to the article Noam Bettan, my English is not the most fluent and I tend to confuse many abbreviations and words. --Acartonadooopo (talk) 20:30, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• User talk:Allan Nonymous Warn the user to stay away from my contributions and my discussion page, that if he stays away the user cannot understand that I do not want any approach from him towards me.--Acartonadooopo (talk) 21:55, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  He has already withdrawn his nomination for Israel-Hamas war in Israeli music, and it looks like he'll withdraw his nomination for Shabjdeed. Your work is being preserved, and built upon. This is a good thing.

  But - you need to be patient, and let the process continue. Do not make this a personal battle between you and another user. Blanking the page for Noam Bettan was a bad idea. Complaining about people trying to delete your page is a bad idea. You're feeling this so strongly right now that it's making you lash out, and do things that will not help your case. Please try to step away from the keyboard for a while, and be patient. Toughpigs (talk) 22:02, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I understand, I already got a little frustrated, but I managed to stay calm for a moment. The problem with these page elimination nominators is, as you say, they do not consult the Hebrew sources nor have they even realized that there are sources in English. Furthermore, they do not know the Hebrew war songs, the Israeli musical artists, the annexes that house relevant information such as the songs during the Iron Sword War, or failing that Palestinian singers, rappers and initiatives and instead Clicking on the links to understand the topic does not do it. and what they do most automatically (I would say is template for deletion) Deletion nominators must make a brief consultation before issuing an opinion judgment In any case, I am very grateful for your attention and dedication, because I feel that you have understood my work, others underestimate it. But you are compassionate, kind, understanding, and even helpful, far from the ego that many cover themselves with. thank you so much for help me. Acartonadooopo (talk) 00:03, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Thank you for the kind words. I agree with you that nominators can sometimes be dismissive, especially dealing with articles about cultures that they're not familiar with. I think you've been adding excellent citations to articles, which is very helpful. If you keep calm, and continue adding good references, you'll find that most of your additions will stay on Wikipedia. Toughpigs (talk) 00:53, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How to write this article Noam Bettan, so that it doesn't look so PROMO?

My command of English is not excellent, I want to find a tutor who knows how to neutralize this article. I have faith that it can be saved. --Acartonadooopo (talk) 02:47, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I can tell you some places where it sounds like it's not neutral.

• The "style" section sounds like it's congratulating him: "His use of the Franco-Israeli language is characterized by being playful, using alliteration and rhyme to create a unique style." Every singer uses alliteration and rhyme, it's not unique.
• There's also the line "It's been half a year since the last song was released, and in this half year I found myself mostly searching for myself, for the words" -- with no quotes around it, or sense of where that line comes from.
• Also, that whole section is supported by a video the singer posted on Facebook. That's not a good source.
• There are three places where it says the first single "was successful on streaming networks", the other singles "were also successful," and then another song "performed well on streaming services and social media". You don't say what "successful" means. Everything is "successful on streaming networks".
• "Kopelman and Bettan little by little improved the track until they took the 'jackpot' with the song Doll". Every musician improves their track little by little. Calling it a "jackpot" with no source sounds like you're congratulating them.
• "There is no better feeling than creating music with the people you love." Where does that line come from? Why does it have four references? That is true for every musician.
• "The song entered at number 183 with approximately 36,811 plays on January 12, 2023" -- Is that supposed to be impressive? Every song gets some plays on streaming, and 36,000 doesn't sound like a lot.

I've been very supportive of the other articles you've worked on, because I think you've found great sources for those subjects. But this one seems like you're trying to pump up a singer that doesn't have good sources yet. I know that you believe in this page, and that's hard to hear. Toughpigs (talk) 03:11, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I relied on this source that narrates his life from its beginnings, its beginnings https://theselected.walla.co.il/item/3434789 This singer has 157K listeners on Spotify I would say that Nathan Goshen is his role model and inspiration and remains very relevant in the Israeli scene, which is why I think he is not very well known in America. In addition, I have visualized artists with fewer lines and they retain their Wikipedia entry but that is my visualization. It is true that it would not be seen like that in the West. Now, in order to maintain their relevance more securely, they have to appear on the Billboard lists driven by the 50 most Viral of TikTok rather, be a viral and biased product. but here on Wikipedia I have seen artists who have very little scene in the music industry, but they maintain an encyclopedic entry Now lastly I noticed a lot of PROMO but if I took it all away there would be nothing left of the article and it would not be saved due to lack of notoriety. Acartonadooopo (talk) 03:37, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I see that you've created a number of articles about Israeli singers recently: Noam Bettan, Yoshi, Sasson Ifram Shaulov, Gal Adam and Maor Ashkenazi. I think the other four are strong pages; Noam Bettan is the weakest.

If taking out the "promo" from Noam Bettan means that there's nothing left, then maybe we just shouldn't have that article right now. Wait until he's done more work, and had more coverage in national news. Toughpigs (talk) 03:45, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It could be, too. I want to be inspired again by the article by Ron Nesher, a very well-known rapper in Israel to try to make it as similar as possible. He does not have many lines but the PROMO of his albums, songs or musical beginnings is not eliminated, in fact that is the forte of a musical artist. Acartonadooopo (talk) 03:57, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Promo removed Noam Bettan. I know it's not relevant at all but I was inspired by rapper Ron Nesher article.Acartonadooopo (talk) 04:27, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently the user who proposes deletion left and right admitted his actions, but my question is the article Maor Ashkenazi and Noam's Song 2 are really a candidate for deletion Note that in the article Noam's Song 2 I put an additional maintenance template, this is very unpleasant on the part of that user who nominated the article for deletion and also placed another issue for me, and also does not respond to my requests regarding that template, I think I made the improvements and notified you but it doesn't seem to delete your template On the other hand, I feel calmer that they are realizing that the user who proposes mass elimination of articles "is wasting a lot of users' time" trying to save something that he involved us in. Acartonadooopo (talk) 05:32, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Be patient; everything is working out fine. Those nominations are still active for a week, unless the nominator withdraws them. Toughpigs (talk) 05:38, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another problem with this user is that he adds these warning templates and when I feel that he has fixed the problem and I go to his discussion page (to withdraw it or request clarification) the user does not respond and only limits himself to add it and that's it, that's also another problem on his part towards me and I have to imagine that towards other Wikipedia users. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Noam%27s_Song_2&diff=prev&oldid=1217666236&title=Noam%27s_Song_2&diffonly=1

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Noam_Bettan&diff=prev&oldid=1217089905&title=Noam_Bettan&diffonly=1 Acartonadooopo (talk) 05:48, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep calm, and don't bother talking to him. It doesn't help, and it just makes you more upset. :) Toughpigs (talk) 05:51, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The user admits that many of the erroneous nominations are due to his life condition (Autism) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Noam%27s_Song_2&diff=prev&oldid=1217711377&title =Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FNoam%27s_Song_2&diffonly=1 The mistakes he has made seem more personal than simple mistakes. Acartonadooopo (talk) 17:38, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the nominations are being withdrawn, which is good! Your work is being respected. I'm not sure about Noam Bettan, because there are a number of people voting delete, but the other pages appear to be just fine. Toughpigs (talk) 17:44, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're also doing a good job on taking the PROMO material out of Maor Ashkenazi. It's nice to see your progress as an editor. Toughpigs (talk) 17:47, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, can you give a spell check to the article Yogev Glossman.Acartonadooopo (talk) 02:41, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I made some edits. Part of the last sentence is gone, it just says "song after receiving permission from the family." I wasn't sure how to fix that. Toughpigs (talk) 02:48, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much, the situation in the last few hours in Israel has been very tense but we are moving forward despite the adversities, thank you very much for the wikification, I am aware that a couple of references would give it more verifiability. Acartonadooopo (talk) 02:53, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, could you help me give Avi Aburomi a linguistic review?. --Acartonadooopo (talk) 20:16, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So I can't nominate those articles for deletion since I don't have an account, but I requested Ultraman Belial and Ultraman Tregear on WT:AFD. Nobody has done it yet, but I thought I'd tell someone. 50.113.53.158 (talk) 23:30, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why don't you create an account? It would make it easier for people to communicate with you. Toughpigs (talk) 23:30, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am 16 and my parents are unsure about it. 50.113.53.158 (talk) 23:36, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Then maybe deleting and redirecting articles isn't a good use of your time. Why not try adding information to articles? Toughpigs (talk) 23:47, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I pinged you because you edited the page, but you can decide simply not to participate in its talkpage. Regards, RodRabelo7 (talk) 21:49, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'd forgotten that I'd made an edit there. :) Unfortunately, I don't have anything to say about the content — my edit was minor. I hope you get answers from the other people! Toughpigs (talk) 21:51, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A few sentences before my correction, the article clearly says: Bat-Mite (or "Might")

And then proceeds to refer to the character over the next two paragraphs as Might four times, Bat-Mite once, and Mite only once, and names him as Mite nowhere else in the entire article. (Barring the Dark Mite Falls.)

I even found online versions of Batman 672-676, but I don't see him named at all, in one reading of those issues. Sfeldon (talk) 05:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, sorry! You're correct. I reverted my change. Toughpigs (talk) 15:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for being open to discuss it. :) Sfeldon (talk) 16:13, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Toughpigs. I see you've removed the Prod template from the aforementioned article. I'd like to know why. Have a good day. Bedivere (talk) 01:36, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bedivere: I see that the article has four sources in it, which means that he's got some claim to notability. Prod is meant for articles that are obviously uncontroversial. If there's room for doubt, then it should probably go through the AfD process, rather than get deleted without anyone taking a look at it. I hope that helps to explain my reasoning. Toughpigs (talk) 02:29, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's good. I'm fine with that. Have a great day Bedivere (talk) 02:44, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's a difference between something being iconic and being notable. For example, Unicron is iconic within the Transformers universe for being a really, really big Transformer. But is there any analysis of him as a character? Not as far as I can tell. Also, all of the Transformers characters that were previously kept at AFD were procedurally kept because the nominator was blocked for CIR issues. 2605:B40:13E7:F600:81AF:FB54:24F5:260E (talk) 20:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In the AfD discussion for Unicron, the result was Keep because nine editors said that the article had enough sources to be considered notable. You are still refusing to understand AfD discussions, and accept prior consensus. This may be a CIR issue of your own. Toughpigs (talk) 20:57, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I know when I'm not wanted, and I seem to be causing more harm than good. I'm going to take a break from editing, probably not forever, but for a while. 2605:B40:13E7:F600:81AF:FB54:24F5:260E (talk) 13:11, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

... for that correction to Little Shop. Just today I realized I used the wrong word! ShawnVW (talk) 19:30, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ha, no problem! Toughpigs (talk) 19:47, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the recognition on my Oz related edits. I really find the post-Baum stuff to be super fascinating! I'm working on transcribing The Royal Book of Oz over on Wikisource, so that is involving getting a lot of images. I'm hoping to go through all of her Oz related books eventually and as they all become public domain.

I also found an image of Ruth Plumly Thompson and updated her page with it.

If you'd like some more help on cleaning up or bolstering the available resources on the Oz pages then please let me know. I'm well aware that that the Baum books, having long been public domain, are very well documented, but the later books aren't. I'd be glad to try and get images for each character as best as I can based on PD status and if it makes sense formatting-wise.

Best, SDudley (talk) 00:36, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi SDudley, thanks for writing! I love the Thompson books — I recently re-read most of the series, and I made a bunch of Oz-related edits a couple months ago to spruce up those pages.

I'd love to find more secondary sources writing about the Thompson books, to make sure those pages don't get deleted as non-notable. I was able to find some contemporary reviews on newspapers.com for many of them, like The Purple Prince of Oz. Internet Archive has a couple of really good books: A Brief Guide to Oz and Oz and Beyond, but it would be great to find more discussion of Thompson's work.

I'm glad you're adding pictures; I'll look forward to seeing what you post! Toughpigs (talk) 02:25, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for those resources. It is late here on the east coast of the US, so I am heading to sleep. However, I was able to make some edits to The Royal Book of Oz page about authorship if you are interested. Also I found this book which features a whole section on Thompson's career. It might be helpful for filling out her own page as well as some of the other Oz books. SDudley (talk) 03:18, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As a fellow Oz fan I appreciate the authorship additions as well, it's a fascinating topic. Very excited to see any further additions to the post-Baum Oz book articles. Harryhenry1 (talk) 03:22, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, how delightful, a little Oz fan meetup on my talk page. :) SDudley, thank you for the Literary Biography book! I've now added a couple notes from the book on Handy Mandy in Oz and The Silver Princess in Oz, and I'll add more to other pages.

While you're both here, I posted a question about page organization on Talk:List of Oz characters (post-Baum), and I'd be interested to know your thoughts. Toughpigs (talk) 03:57, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Toughpigs.

Thanks for your edits in the article Paperinik. You wrote "took out confusing sentence". I had a look at the sentence and what I have deduced is that Paperinik never appears as a side character. In fact, Paperinik never appears at all in any story that is not specifically a "Paperinik story". Even way back in the late 1980s and early 1990s I noticed that in the Finnish Donald Duck pocket books, the only books that show Paperinik ("Taikaviitta" in Finnish) are the ones whose name includes the name "Taikaviitta".

Does this help you? Should the sentence be brought back? JIP | Talk 23:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @JIP: Thank you so much for making that page! It's terrific, and I'm really glad we have an article for him now. Thanks for explaining what you meant with that sentence — I added it back, rewritten so it's a little clearer. What do you think? Toughpigs (talk) 00:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it looks better now. Thanks! JIP | Talk 08:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.thedial.world/issue-17/shanghai-disneyland-park-linabell says that LinaBell is the most popular Disney character in China. Do you think it's worth an article? WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:29, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I think so. That article in The Dial seems convincing. Right now, LinaBell is in a list of spin-off characters on the article Duffy the Disney Bear — but it sounds like we're well behind the curve on how popular the character has become in China. I also see some coverage on cbbc.org and sixthtone.com, and elsewhere. Are you planning to start an article? Toughpigs (talk) 22:36, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't mind, I'd rather have you start this one. I see some mentions in Google Books (I haven't investigated further), but nothing in Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library. I find nothing at Wikidata or zhwiki (searching only under the English name). WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:44, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's a good idea! Thanks for the suggestion. I'll see what I can do when I've got a little time. :) Toughpigs (talk) 23:21, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looking into it, it looks like there isn't that much to say right now about LinaBell except the character description, that she's very popular in China, she's been introduced in other places, and there's a lot of merchandise. This could comfortably fit in the Duffy the Disney Bear article — although that article is a real mess. So I've started rewriting that article instead. :) Toughpigs (talk) 16:44, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds like a good plan.

Instead of a thank-you barnstar, I have a little gift for you. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:14, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is a wonderful gift, thank you! Toughpigs (talk) 21:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I know I said I'm trying to edit less, but I want to bring something up. User:A.S. Brown made an article for every Ren & Stimpy episode before 1995, but they're all pretty abysmal. Can you check out the ones they made and do what you think is necessary? 2605:B40:13E7:F600:A532:2DFB:1C7B:74E7 (talk) 00:27, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You just put a notability tag on an article with Good Article status. I think that your intuitions about notability are pretty off-base. Toughpigs (talk) 01:28, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Touche. Maybe it is fine. But a stopped clock is right twice a day, so could you at least humor me? 2605:B40:13E7:F600:A532:2DFB:1C7B:74E7 (talk) 01:32, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I knew that Brave would be controversial at the very least. But unlike that, the majority of these rely on one guy's book as the only source. They seem more like sandboxes than real articles. 2605:B40:13E7:F600:A532:2DFB:1C7B:74E7 (talk) 01:57, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do see what you mean; many of them seem supported by only one source. That said, a lot of them are a good start, and can probably be improved. Why don't you try helping out, and finding a source to add? Toughpigs (talk) 01:58, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, thanks. Maybe you could ask Brown to improve or do it yourself? Again, I'm trying to edit less. 2605:B40:13E7:F600:A532:2DFB:1C7B:74E7 (talk) 02:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you're going to make edits at all, I would encourage you to try contributing to make an article better. It would be a good way for you to learn about how Wikipedia works. Toughpigs (talk) 02:10, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Before you revert me again, I think there's enough already present at her entry on List of Gargoyles characters. What's here is mostly just cruft, and the consensus was to merge. 2605:B40:13E7:F600:5C3E:C3DA:FDE9:A738 (talk) 19:11, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. I was hoping somebody from the AfD would do an actual merge, but it was up for a day and apparently nobody cared enough, including me. Toughpigs (talk) 19:34, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the help at List of Doctor Who universe creatures and aliens, both with your edits and the discussion on the talk page. I greatly appreciate it. Happy editing! Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 16:54, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, @Pokelego999! I'm glad that you inspired me to help out on that page. Happy editing to you! Toughpigs (talk) 17:10, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Toughpigs thank you for the added citations on the article. It's a great help with being able to source plot information for a lot of the entries on the list. If I may, do you happen to know where I could access the sources you used? I wish to see how much content is in each one for additional plot verification information.

Additionally, I'm looking over the list, and given the inclusion criteria we're working with, I've noticed there are a lot of monsters who have a significant role in an episode who aren't in the list. I've already noted the Cheetah People, Teller, Mire, Sandmen, Mandrels, Marshmen, Forest of Cheem, Dream Crabs, Metebelis Spiders, and Memory Worm could probably be added, which I'll get around to adding and sourcing later probably. Are there are any other notable absences you've noticed? I noticed you added the Monoids earlier, so I just wanted to make sure there weren't any big ones I've forgotten about off the top of my head. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 21:22, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Pokelego999! The About Time books are great for plot info; they're comprehensive guides to every story from An Unearthly Child up to the the 10th Doctor, with at least a few paragraphs on every alien in the series. They're physical books that I own, so unfortunately it's hard to share them -- they're listed on Google Books but with no previews. I did notice some more gaps when I was adding the citations, and I can definitely add more creatures.

By the way, working on this page inspired me to create a page for the Mechonoids — you should check it out, I kind of went overboard on it. :) Toughpigs (talk) 21:34, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Toughpigs

I figured as much with About Time in regards to access. Shame I can't access them, but their information seems valuable. I'll try utilizing them as a source for plot summary going forward over the episodes themselves if I can. Thank you again for the help with the cites. It's greatly appreciated. :)

Looking over the Mechonoids article right now. While I'm a bit iffy on individual notability, there's enough real-world info where I think a split from The Chase can be justified. I did find this and this in a brief search, which may help a bit, and I'll see if I can't find more on them in the near future. I do feel some of the sections could be merged together though for simplicity's sake (Such as creation and design, and publicity and broadcast). Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 21:55, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will say I do feel the Doctor Who monster pages have a great potential for expansion, especially older ones due to the bulk of real-world coverage on the show. I definitely also feel the individual monsters we already have could be greatly expanded as well. Of course, one thing at a time, but I definitely wanted to bring it up given that there's great potential there. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 22:01, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I agree — there are a ton of good-quality non-fiction sources about pretty much any aspect of the show; it's amazingly well documented. Toughpigs (talk) 22:04, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am not really here to discuss our IP friend from Colorado, but I do feel you deserve some praise for commendable patience in dealing with this IP and for your comments on the ANI. But that is right nasty business that is best kept to a minimum. I would much rather talk about positive things rather than negative things. It seems to me that the editors who work hard over the years to improve articles in ways both great and small never seem to get much appreciation and thanks for all their toil, so I will try to correct this in in my own small way. You have been doing very stellar work, and I would like to give you a well deserved thank you! I hope all is well, and best wishes! --A.S. Brown (talk) 04:32, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I'm very glad that you opened that conversation, and I'm looking forward to three months of peace and quiet. :) Best wishes to you, and thank you for your wiki work. Toughpigs (talk) 05:01, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About the list: While I'm getting decent work done on it (Slowly but surely), I do feel as though given how much work we're putting into this that we could probably take this article to FL if we put enough work into it. I'm aware of some sources that will need to be addressed (I know there's a Mashable and Game Rant source I'll need to take care of, at the minimum) but I feel there's enough on Doctor Who that with some additional research we could probably take this from being one of the worst lists to one of the best. You don't need to do anything yet, but once I'm done with my basic work on the list, would you be willing to go through and help me with ironing out the list and helping me with improving it to FL standards? This wouldn't be for a while given my current pace of work, but I did just want to ask in advance, especially given you're a much more experienced editor than I am. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:43, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Pokelego: I'm excited to see all of the expansion that you're doing on the list! Getting this to FL standard is a nice idea, although it seems like a tremendous amount of work. I think what we'd need for that is more info on the design, production and reception for each creature. As you say, there's definitely enough existing reference material to do that, but much of it is in print. For example, check out the Bibliography for the article on The Daleks' Master Plan - and that's just a Good Article and not Featured!

One resource that's available for free on Internet Archive is Doctor Who: The Television Companion, which has scattered production info and great reception info from contemporary sources like fanzines and BBC audience surveys.

The gold standard for production info is Doctor Who: The Complete History, which would be very helpful for everything up through Capaldi, but it's a 90-volume series - you can see them all on PocketMags. I own about 10 of them, mostly Hartnell and Troughton. There are a couple volumes that you can look at on Internet Archive - "Colony in Space / The Daemons / Day of the Daleks", and "The Sensorites / The Reign of Terror / Planet of Giants".

I'll check out the About Time books that I've got, and look for production info to add on some of the entries that you've expanded. It's definitely a fun project, and I think over time the page can become something really special! Toughpigs (talk) 17:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, the fact so much info is just paywalled off I feel will be the main roadblock. I'll try to make do with what sources I can get my hands on for the time being in order to include as much out of universe information as I possibly can for each entry. I know I've got a few books lying around that contain some information, and I'll take a look at what you've linked above. Thank you for the help again, and I'll let you know if I have any further specific inquiries regarding the list in the future. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:55, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

I added a talk page discussion here about the He-man cosplayer image - Talk:He-Man_as_a_gay_icon#Cosplayer_image 2001:8F8:1B69:1E77:90E9:C860:B76D:DB92 (talk) 12:49, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks for letting me know. I understand your point better now. Toughpigs (talk) 19:25, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm Marisoft69 and I have to talk to you about something you replaced but that is wrong in certain elements and I mean the time you said that the simpsons are an adaptation of the shorts of the tracey ullman show, the change you made is very wrong since the shorts are pilot episodes and are not adaptations, your information is already very wrong. My answer Marisoft69 (talk) 10:47, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Toughpigs. I've recently tried to expand the article on Robowar (film). As you are one of the biggest contributors to the article who is still active, I was wondering if you'd be able to clarify any of the content that remains on it (page number from some citations, make sure latest bold edits are okay]]. I look forward to working with you on the article if you so wish to continue work on it! Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:22, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, that was most interesting. It seems that our friend is not capable of learning from his mistakes. Thank you for your kind words and I hope all is well with you as well.:) --A.S. Brown (talk) 16:18, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi!

Since you worked very extensively on the post-Baum characters page I was wondering if you'd be interested in trying to revive the WikiProject for Oz with me? It seems to be very inactive, but with the Thompson books entering public domain over the next few years there is probably a lot to do in relation to the series writ large.

I am going to start editing the project page for hopes of making it better. We have also finished proofreading Royal Book of Oz on Wikisource, and hopefully starting on Kabumpo in Oz soon.

Please let me know if any of this interests you!

Best,

Sean SDudley (talk) 19:37, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi SDudley, thanks for asking! I'd be happy to help; I like the Thompson books very much. Let me know what I can do to help! Toughpigs (talk) 23:52, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the enthusiasm! I am in the progress of reworking the project page! But I shall ping you once I have finished it. If you want to sign your name as a participant over there please do! I would love to have another person signed with me. Also, please do feel free to add ideas or suggest them!

The most recent area I am working on is just kind of good pages to click through if you wanted to have some nice intro points if you're new to Oz overall! SDudley (talk) 22:41, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually if you wanted to help rework the templates to notate user group that would be cool! I think a general one for Oz. But also 2 tags maybe for if people work more on stuff for Baum books or Thompson books? SDudley (talk) 22:44, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, sorry, I'm not that strong on templates! But I'll sign up on the page, and I'm glad you're reviving the project. Toughpigs (talk) 14:37, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All good! I can totally figure that out as I go. If you wanted to help then maybe starting to spearhead some work on the reception to and creation of individualized Thompson books would be a good place to begin! I know lots of them lack adequate info and it can be hard to find, but if we can add some more stuff that would be good. I just started to revise her page with some new info. SDudley (talk) 14:49, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Earlier this year, I found some short reviews on Newspapers.com for most of the Thompson books, with a few exceptions. I wish I had something like the Oz Club's The Baum Bugle — I used to have some, but I don't know what happened to them. Toughpigs (talk) 16:08, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you end up putting those reviews on pages? I saw that Wikipedia Library lost access to Newspapers.com, sadly. I definitely will keep adding things I can find. SDudley (talk) 18:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I did. For example, check out the Reception section on The Silver Princess in Oz and Handy Mandy in Oz. Toughpigs (talk) 19:14, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for those! They look great. I've done a good deal of overhauling on the page so far! Any thoughts on what I am going for at the moment? I have also been working on cleaning up the organization of the larger Oz franchise on Wikimedia Commons. Please feel free to add to the WikiProject page directly. Best, SDudley (talk) 02:09, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You've done a great job on the project page! I'm glad that you've moved a lot of the dull information like the templates and other WikiProjects further down, and focused the top of the page on how people can get started, and showcasing what the major needs are. I also like that you've replaced those long lists with links to the list pages — it's more interesting and fun to explore the list pages. This is a huge improvement! Toughpigs (talk) 17:37, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I have a question about whether there is musical notability in this article Kfir Tsafrir through WP: Singer, because they are asking for significant coverage ?. 181.197.42.215 (talk) 18:01, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

...a small IPv6 range that's been plaguing a bunch of Muppet-related articles for at least the past month or so. Please let me know if those sorts of problems occur again. Unrelatedly, maybe time to archive a bunch of your talkpage? It's getting long and un-wieldy. DMacks (talk) 08:02, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thanks for the block, and thanks for letting me know! Toughpigs (talk) 15:39, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. I'm not sure how to do it, and was in mobile. The goal is bring to attention to someone. Thanks. Ulysses Fiuza (talk) 03:21, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, that link isn't dead -- there's an archive link included in the reference as well. So no problem! Toughpigs (talk) 03:23, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for re-adding the musical. I find it ridiculous that the first instinct of the other editor was to remove content, as opposed to finding a new source. -- Zanimum (talk) 00:05, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, especially because the sources were already there in the musical page! Glad to help. Toughpigs (talk) 00:07, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please show me where it's okay to include an entire full film media files on pages? I can see if it’s the trailer that's maybe a minute long but an entire film that’s over 70 minutes long is quite ridiculous. This isn't YouTube. Pillowdelight (talk) 03:21, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If it's public domain, then it's acceptable. The encyclopedia includes sound and video files in addition to text. There isn't a time limit on the length of a video file. Toughpigs (talk) 03:25, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]