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Talk:2025 assassination of Iranian Supreme Court judges

Perpetrator

Has the perpetrator been identified yet? All the information I know is that it's a male who had a 10 year career in judiciary and was a Abdarchi (what even is that?) Bloxzge 025 (talk) 01:34, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have not seen anything, and I specifically added that the identity and motive have not been released. Harizotoh9 (talk) 07:19, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just checked the Persian article and the attacker was identified. I'll add it to the article. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 21:39, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 21 January 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Speedy Moved. Clear consensus in the discussion, and the article doesn't use the word "Sharia" anywhere in its text, which gives us no basis for using is as the title.  — Amakuru (talk) 20:29, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 assassination of Sharia judges in Iran → 2025 assassination of Iranian Supreme Court judges – Sources describing the event overwhelmingly describe the judges as Supreme Court judges (WP:COMMONNAME). See [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12] (all sources currently cited in the article) – all describe them as Supreme Court judges, and none describing them as "Sharia judges". Furthermore, while a judge in an judicial system involving Sharia is in some sense a "Sharia judge", the same could be said of judges at any level in the system. The fact that these people were in the highest court is a major part of the significance of the event. Adumbrativus (talk) 06:23, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Compromise Move but insert 'Sharia' between Iranian and Supreme. Footballnerd2007 • talk ⚽ 10:40, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it's necessary to add Sharia to the title since the official name of the court doesn't have Sharia in it. Can I has Cheezburger? (talk) 17:30, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Footballnerd2007 you need to justify based on RS.VR (Please ping on reply) 19:07, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support SC per common name and reportage. Borgenland (talk) 12:43, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support - per above Nightmares26 (talk) 14:43, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Assassination implies intent, and very technically we don't know if there was any intention or if anyone specifically was targeted. No motivation has been revealed. We know for sure there was an attack and a shooting and should stick with that. Harizotoh9 (talk) 09:14, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, I find the proposed name better than the current one, but "assassination" does not necessarily fit the facts we have right now, though that may change of course. For the time being, I would support a move to "2025 Iranian Supreme Court shooting". Choucas Bleu 🐦‍⬛ 10:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support a la @Choucas Bleu. I oppose all motions to include the word Sharia in the title as that doesn't seem relevant. Xx78900 (talk) 11:12, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per above comment. Sharia feels irrelevant to the article, as Iran is by law a Sharia country, and as such the judges will all be of the Sharia faith. XFalcon2004x (talk) 17:20, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support, per nom –Tobias (talk) 17:33, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support and WP:TROUT the user who titled the article this way. Google shows that not a single RS[13] uses the term "Sharia judges" in connection with this event. What's worse is that this made-up term is now on the front page of wikipedia.VR (Please ping on reply) 19:13, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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