Talk:2023–2025 Manipur violence
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Efforts to survey
There has been this problematic sentence in the lead that has been tagged a while ago and never resolved. I have removed it here for discussion.
There have been evictions of Kuki communities as a result of efforts to survey forests, which were ostensibly made to stop the cultivation of poppy.[1][2][3][clarification needed]
References
- ^ Saikia, Arunabh (13 June 2023). "Why Manipur's civil war is being linked to the narcotics trade". Scroll.in.
- ^ Binalakshmi Nepram; Brigitta W. Schuchert (2 June 2023). "Understanding India's Manipur Conflict and Its Geopolitical Implications". United States Institute of Peace.
- ^ "Poppy cultivation, eviction drives, illegal influx, old scars—why Manipur is burning". India Today. 5 May 2023.
None of this is explained in the body, and I need to see explanation of how it summarises the sources. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:33, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
ethnic -> ethno-religious violence in lede
@Kautilya3, why did you remove ethno-religious violence from lede... The article already mentions attacks on temples and churches, and in the infobox there is also an attack caused by anti-Christian sentiment. There are all sources that make this ethno-religious. 103.241.226.121 (talk) 08:13, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- You need to provide a reliable source for it. In fact, multiple high-quality sources would be needed to make such a claim in the lead. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
confusing infobox
@Kautilya3@Okenkhwairakpam@Haoreima, I don't understand why Meitei genocides written in infoxbox.... What does that mean? i can't undersatnd.... it should renamed with proper meaning or should be removed... it can misunderstood as gonocides of meiteis.. 103.241.226.130 (talk) 15:49, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
Done. It was apparently vandalised. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 12:42, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Hindus?
@Kautilya3. Shouldn't there be mentions if anti hindu sentinments as well? It's an ethnic conflicts from both sides. 2409:40F4:10FB:8933:A977:ABAC:9404:3516 (talk) 18:15, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is written by summarising reliable sources, not by doing our own original research. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 12:42, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
2024 Election results - considered a 'reaction'?
Would it be fair to say the 2024 election results (BJP and NDA losing seats) were a reaction to the ongoing violence? The state/central government's inability to effectively curtail the violence and the backlash against previous party leadership are well covered in Reliable sources, so not sure we'd be making much of a leap here. Started to add some content to the "Reactions" section but figured it may be better to discuss here first. Since this article is now expanded to cover '2025', it may be relevant to include the subsequent political impact.... Schwinnspeed (talk) 03:47, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- We can't say it like that, that this is the reason for the result but yes as a contributing factor. Sources will be needed that make this relation. MrMkG (talk) 09:05, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
Renaming Zo as Zomi, correcting a typos that was there in the Article.
The name Zo and Zomi resonate in this conflict and there are no misrepresentation or denouncing any community in any shape or form. I have also attached a few more references and citing in the Article which would be more understandable for the reader regarding the conflict and to valid my claims. Please look into it and verify the information I've contributed instead of straight up rejecting to it. A conflict involves a lot of community and Zomi Community were also a part of this conflict. I'm sure and hopeful to my knowledge that no mistake were made in my contribution to this article. Thank you.
MS Naulak (talk) 05:03, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- I support the edit made by MS Naulak as this is true in every aspect. Removing the term Zomi is an attempt to sideline other communities in this conflict other than the Kukis 2409:40C0:1052:D710:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 05:13, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
I have no idea what is supposed to be meant by "resonate in this conflict". The Kuki people page accepts Kuki-Zo people as an equivalent descriptive term. The community is currently being led by "Kuki-Zo Council", which is described as "an apex body of Kuki-Zo communities in Manipur".[1] Who are these "Zomi" that are not covered by the Kuki-Zo Council? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 05:58, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- Please read this Article Zomi people. Let's not talk fantasy here. Thank you. MS Naulak (talk) 06:20, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is written by summarising reliable sources. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 07:12, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- In your own words it would be re-lie-able. I hope this help and get well soooon! MS Naulak (talk) 07:24, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is written by summarising reliable sources. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 07:12, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- KZC in the apex body of Kukis under the Zo nation, Kukinization of non -Kukis and sidelining their name must be stopped 2409:40C0:1052:D710:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 07:56, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a platform for fighting identitarian battles. If you continue doing so, you will be blocked. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:30, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- wouldn't hurt to be less ignorant instead of being a gatekeeping incel, just saying 2409:40C0:1F:D80C:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 09:09, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- See WP:NOTAFORUM. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:41, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- The above ip is giving this type of ip range a bad name. 2409:40C1:31:71EC:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 11:21, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Nobody is restricted to IP ranges. You can always open an account and start editing. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 17:15, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- The above ip is giving this type of ip range a bad name. 2409:40C1:31:71EC:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 11:21, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- See WP:NOTAFORUM. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:41, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- wouldn't hurt to be less ignorant instead of being a gatekeeping incel, just saying 2409:40C0:1F:D80C:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 09:09, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a platform for fighting identitarian battles. If you continue doing so, you will be blocked. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:30, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
References
- ^ Manipur CM blames conflict on Congress; says his apology was only to victims, not “terrorists”, The Hindu, 3 January 2025.