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{{u|SusunW}} Sorry to pull you around but I figured Ian might being get tired of us by now. LOL. So, Isabel Cobb is going to be a fun one. First female physician in Indian Territory. I'm just starting to get information on her but there appears to be a wealth of it.[[User:Tsistunagiska|Tsistunagiska]] ([[User talk:Tsistunagiska#top|talk]]) 19:04, 25 August 2020 (UTC) |
{{u|SusunW}} Sorry to pull you around but I figured Ian might being get tired of us by now. LOL. So, Isabel Cobb is going to be a fun one. First female physician in Indian Territory. I'm just starting to get information on her but there appears to be a wealth of it.[[User:Tsistunagiska|Tsistunagiska]] ([[User talk:Tsistunagiska#top|talk]]) 19:04, 25 August 2020 (UTC) |
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:No worries. Ian is really very patient, or that is my experience with him. Glad you are finding sources. That is always the hardest part for women. [[User:SusunW|SusunW]] ([[User talk:SusunW|talk]]) 19:29, 25 August 2020 (UTC) |
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Welcome!


Welcome to Wikipedia, Tsistunagiska! Thank you for your contributions. I am Whisperjanes and I have been editing Wikipedia for some time, so if you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. You can also check out Wikipedia:Questions or type {{help me}}
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- @Whisperjanes Thanks for the cookies. Yum-Yum, they look delish!!! Tsistunagiska (talk) 13:56, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Extended welcome (and suggestions)
I saw your post on WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America, so I wanted to say hi and welcome! :) I'm glad you're willing to share your expertise on Wikipedia (it is definitely needed), and I appreciate you taking the time to improve the Cherokee society article. I've added a welcome message to the top of this page that gives some information about Wikipedia - I hope you find it useful.
Since I've seen some of your first edits on the article Cherokee society, I wanted to offer some friendly advice on how to make your edits better. I highly recommend you read WP:RELIABLE, which is a guideline on what the English Wikipedia community considers to be a "Reliable Source". I also recommend you read the much shorter WP:SELFPUB, about using self-published sources.
A few of the links you cited seem like they are not reliable enough, because they seem to be "self-published" sources - specifically https://bearriverkansas.com/ (which seems to be for a Role playing game) and https://cherokeehazel.wordpress.com/. It would be better to replace those sources with more reliable ones, if you can.
I hope this helps and isn't too much information at once! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a reply on this page by using the text {{re|Whisperjanes}}
in your message. Or, you can leave a message on my talk page. Best, - Whisperjanes (talk) 17:41, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- @WhisperjanesI will endeavour to find more reliable sources. These are all things we know are true and I never quote or use information from any source that isn't accepted as truth. It's hard to find sources for some items as most official Cherokee sites do not share historical/spiritual data and rather allows locals and storytellers to share this information. I will also read the information you provided. Thank you.--Tsistunagiska (talk) 18:13, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- It can definitely be hard to find "reliable" sources for Wikipedia, and that's unfortunately what makes sharing certain information more difficult on Wikipedia. I'm glad you're looking into some books, though! I wish that storytellers themselves (or all types of oral history) could be referenced as a reliable source on Wikipedia, but so far, there hasn't been a way to do it (I assume because it would be too easy to spread false information that way). - Whisperjanes (talk) 20:21, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Whisperjanes: Absolutely!! It can be especially frustrating because I know the stories. I know what has been taught but I can't reference what is in my mind as of yet so I keep digging and researching to find something reliable to confirm what I have been taught. It is extremely rewarding when you find it. :)Tsistunagiska (talk) 20:24, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
- It can definitely be hard to find "reliable" sources for Wikipedia, and that's unfortunately what makes sharing certain information more difficult on Wikipedia. I'm glad you're looking into some books, though! I wish that storytellers themselves (or all types of oral history) could be referenced as a reliable source on Wikipedia, but so far, there hasn't been a way to do it (I assume because it would be too easy to spread false information that way). - Whisperjanes (talk) 20:21, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Women in Red
Osiyo, Tsistunagiska, and welcome to Women in Red! First of all, thank you so much for your kind words on my talk page. The main reason I contribute regularly to Wikipedia is that I really enjoy it. I find it rewarding to see how we are able to make slow but sure progress in a number of important areas, especially in connection with women. On the basis of the informative additions you have made to Cherokee society, it looks as if you are going to be a useful member of our project. You already seem to have a pretty good grasp of the basics of editing but you might find it useful to go through The Wikipedia Adventure. Once you feel ready to create your own biographies, you might like to look at our Ten Simple Rules. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties or need assistance. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 13:42, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Ipigott Well, you have successfully brought me to tears this morning. Happy tears! :) The tasks can be very grueling at times so I just like to offer encouragement where I can. I can't explain why you stood out to me when I was going through the list of participants but you did, even before I read your page. And then I saw why. You are an incredible person and I just had to tell you that. I am making daily changes to the referenced article and picking up on suggestions and tips. The article will look significantly different once I really get comfortable with editing and the goal is to, one day, start and build relevant articles myself. I am also a member of the Cherokee Wikipedia Community but unfortunately I am not, currently, a fluent speaker/writer. I am working to rectify that. So I am just promoting the community until we can get some fluent speakers/writers in to actually critique and write articles themselves.
Recent edit reversion
In this edit here, I reverted some information that appears to be a violation of our copyright policy.
I provided a brief summary of the problem in the edit summary, which should be visible just below my name. You can also click on the "view history" tab in the article to see the recent history of the article. This should be an edit with my name, and a parenthetical comment explaining why your edit was reverted. If that information is not sufficient to explain the situation, please ask.S Philbrick(Talk) 13:15, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- @S Philbrick I will rewrite the section however that site you listed is not the originator of the information provided. As a matter of fact, I have a lesson plan from the Cherokee Nation that I modified to write this section. I am simply provided sources outside of it to add credibility to what I was writing. The site you provided was not used as a source in this instance because it is one of dozens found to contain the same information that originated from James Mooney's "History, Myths and Sacred Formulas of the Cherokees" published in 1900 and Thomas E Mail's "The Cherokee People" published in 1992.
Isabel Cobb
SusunW Sorry to pull you around but I figured Ian might being get tired of us by now. LOL. So, Isabel Cobb is going to be a fun one. First female physician in Indian Territory. I'm just starting to get information on her but there appears to be a wealth of it.Tsistunagiska (talk) 19:04, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
- No worries. Ian is really very patient, or that is my experience with him. Glad you are finding sources. That is always the hardest part for women. SusunW (talk) 19:29, 25 August 2020 (UTC)