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Please see Template_talk:Infobox_organization/Archive_2#Mission,_slogan and the links there, which resulted in removing "mission" and "slogan" from this infobox. "Motto" is still there, and is the same nonencyclopedic, PR-driven thing as the other two. Please delete it. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 18:04, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — JJMC89 (T·C) 18:45, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@JJMC89: "Motto" variable is used in many other relevant cases. Please reintrdouce it. See for instance: Cavalry and Guards Club, Catholic German student corporation Saarland (Saarbrücken) Jena, and more. Chicbyaccident (talk) 15:07, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jytdog, Lordtobi, MjolnirPants, and Faceless Enemy:​ Thoughts? — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:25, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't reinstate it. This is just marketing cruft. Jytdog (talk) 04:29, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@JJMC89: My two cents is that it should be reintroduced - it might be important or notable occasionally. But Jytdog is also correct - usually it's just something useless, like "Proudly serving our customers and the community!" Maybe emphasize that the importance of mentioning it needs to be backed by reliable sources? Faceless Enemy (talk) 01:54, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If there are independent sources that say something meaningful about it, this can be discussed in the body of the article. Leaving it in the infobox, just opens us to more promotional cruft and battles about whether there is sufficient independent sources to copy/paste the motto from the organization's website into the infobox. Too many people come here already wanting to turn WP pages into proxies for the organization's own website. Jytdog (talk) 02:12, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I updated the documentation page to reflect this change. Simply revert my edit there if discussion changes. – TheGridExe (talk) 14:38, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This template is used for such things as the Royal Society and the Linnean Society, societies that have histories going back many centuries, they also have mottoes. The mottoes are as important and historic as are the mottoes of Universities and other such institutions. The infoboxes for such pages need the ability to show their mottoes. Either include this facility here or create a "Learned society infobox", "Society infobox" or "NGO infobox". At the moment the organization infobox is not appropriate or fit for purpose for these types of society. Urselius (talk) 11:20, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Given the parameter's utility in articles about older organizations like the Royal Society and the Knights of Columbus, as well as the fact that a consensus for its reintroduction exists here (all but one person being in agreement), I've re-added {{edit template-protected}}. 142.160.89.97 (talk) 19:35, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:18, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@JzG:@Jeff5102: We need some consistent and neutral standard for if/when to put a motto in an infobox, not just that someone thinks a particular motto is "Orwillian" [1] or similar IDONTLIKEIT/ILIKEIT arguments or personal opinions on mottos being marketing, ect. Tornado chaser (talk) 15:04, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The correct answer is: Never. It's marketing fluff, not encyclopaedic information. No mottos, slogans, mission statements or any other such PR guff. Guy (Help!) 15:09, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The merge notice should be wrapped in <noinclude>...</noinclude> tags. It is being transcluded across mainspace pages. –Ammarpad (talk) 09:01, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Galobtter (pingó mió) 09:06, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The focus/purpose parameter seems essentially the same as the deleted[2] mission parameter, and should also be deleted. Tornado chaser (talk) 00:22, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: I checked a few instances of its use and they don't appear to be used similarly. |Mission= appears to have been used for just a copy paste of the marketing while |purpose= isn't Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:13, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Following label42 "Successors", please consider adding:

| label43 = Mergers

| data43 =

| label44 = Unions

| data44 =

Mergers would be applicable to notable organizations absorbed by the subject organization of the article. Unions would be applicable to movements, where multiple affiliates merge or prior successors rejoin each other. –Zfish118^⋉talk 03:12, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]