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Apologies for [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:New_York_(disambiguation)/Meta&diff=prev&oldid=790652385 this unintentional edit] which {{u|JFG}} rightly reverted. I occasionally have some strange page loading problems and I can only assume that it was during one of these that I clicked on the wrong button on a page. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 06:32, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
Apologies for [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:New_York_(disambiguation)/Meta&diff=prev&oldid=790652385 this unintentional edit] which {{u|JFG}} rightly reverted. I occasionally have some strange page loading problems and I can only assume that it was during one of these that I clicked on the wrong button on a page. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 06:32, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

== Supertopics ==

"Although ideally subtopics should be titled consistently with their supertopics," where do you get that idea? There are many examples in the MOS that states consistency within articles is desirable, but does not suggest that consistency between articles is. [[WP:CITE]] supports consistency within articles not across them; and [[WP:AT]] explicitly states "'''Do not create subsidiary articles''': Do not use titles suggesting that one article forms part of another" ([[WP:AT#Article title format|Article title format]]). -- [[User:PBS|PBS]] ([[User talk:PBS|talk]]) 14:34, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

In fact in the case of Zurich the majority of English language sources user "Zurich" note "Zürich" and have done for 100s of years, so it is that page that needs moving. The problem is that just like the battle pages there are lots of people who simply support Zürich without presenting evidence. Such support ought to be discounted when a closer closes an RM. The problem is that most closer it seems simply treat ''opinions expressed'' as ''votes''. -- [[User:PBS|PBS]] ([[User talk:PBS|talk]]) 14:34, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

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Request for openion

Article Legitimacy (criminal law) has been requested to be moved to Legitimacy (law) requesting your openion at Talk:Legitimacy_(criminal_law)

Thanks and regards

Mahitgar (talk) 07:41, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

I have replied in that discussion. Cheers! bd2412 T 19:23, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

AWB

Well, I'm not going to be using it a whole lot for a while. (I've done the odd thing here or there lately, but I have other tasks I plan on tackling for the foreseeable future. Lots of things I've let fall by the wayside over time.) --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:18, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

  • I just wish that you had assisted with this task prior to the point where others felt compelled to carry it out. bd2412 T 19:24, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Category:People admitted to the practice of law by reading law, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. TM 13:34, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Godhead

I noticed that you have distinguished the draft from the mainspace article, thanks for that. I realized that I also forgot to notify you of the CSD on this talk page, I'm glad that the draft was still on your watchlist. Have a nice day, —PaleoNeonate - 19:51, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

No problem. Cheers! bd2412 T 19:53, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Kobi Arad

Hello, I've made translation of Arad's article from French to English, to which you have made editting contributions. This article was deleted, and seems to have been hunted for a long time due to notability / promo issues. So I would ask your assistance in help me with living draft Draft:Kobi Arad (and un-salting 'Kobi Arad') in case the following notability info seems reasonable, and all links are alive. -Peter Pattern (talk) 20:40, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

I will have a look, but I have a number of other priorities that I am attending to right now. Perhaps this weekend. Cheers! bd2412 T 20:42, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Dear BD2412: three questions:

1. My name is Michael, Arad's manager, and therefore do not edit his articles. Is it ok if I edit draft through WP:AFC?

2. Does the following notability specifics seem fair as to be incorporated within the draft:

Subject meets notability in following sections:

WP:GNG

Non trivial and objective coverage by reliable sources such as: ynet.com, Jewish Week, All About Jazz (article) and Israel Times.

WP:MUSICBIO (Although single section notability is sufficient, Arad meets notability in 3 different sections):

Section1: Multiple Reliable Publications:

http://m.ynet.co.il/Articles/4182867https://www.allaboutjazz.com/sketches-of-imaginary-landscapes-kobi-arad-self-produced-review-by-glenn-astarita.php?width=412http://jewishweek.timesofisrael.com/for-jewish-artists-a-space-of-ones-own/


Section 7:

● Arad is a world-wide authority in the Third Stream style, as he is the first and only (as of 2012) musician to earn doctorate in the field.

Sources: - Letter from Dean of New England Conservatory of Music to Kobi Arad (dating 2012): https://issuu.com/kobiarad/docs/novak_letter - https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_stream - http://m.ynet.co.il/Articles/4182867

Section 9:

Arad participted in multitude of interviews which featured panel discussions, airplay and interviews in Israeli National Radio, IBA (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Broadcasting_Authority).

Sources:

- http://www.tunedloud.com/2017/07/05/kobi-arad-ellington-upside-down-as-a-musical-portrait-of-the-jazz-titan/ - https://issuu.com/zmiralu/docs/selection (Letter from Iba editor Zmira Luzki) - https://issuu.com/acum9/docs/5_7_1_ (BMI international airplay statements) - https://issuu.com/acum9/docs/9 (BMI international airplay statements)

3. In case the requirements are fulfilled (links are alive, and you find #2 satisfactory), are you going to be willing to assist in living the draft and unsalt 'Kobi Arad' article?

Thanks :=)

  • The only edit I made to this page was to improve a link. It is outside of my area of expertise, so I do not think I will be of help. I would suggest, however, posting the above materials on the talk page of the draft. bd2412 T 21:01, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Bevilacqua

Hey there,

Just a heads up that an article has been created for the draft you started here: Draft:Joseph A. Bevilacqua. The article is at Joseph A. Bevilacqua, Sr.. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 23:39, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the notice, I have disposed of the draft. Cheers! bd2412 T 00:00, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

When I read that episode description, I simply assumed it meant Mrs. Foster went to New York state.  But, since you changed it to New York City, that must mean Mrs. Foster went specifically to the city of New York, not merely to the state of New York.  Thanks for providing the link to the more-specific location.  Cheers, allixpeeke (talk) 04:01, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Airports (as referenced in this passage) are typically designated by city, not by state. Cheers! bd2412 T 10:46, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Ah.  Since the show was British, I simply guessed the airport referenced in the passage was one of these.  Thanks again!  : )   allixpeeke (talk) 14:11, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Interesting. From the blurb one would get the impression that the subject was travelling to New York, but from The Way Up to Heaven it appears they were travelling from New York City to Paris. bd2412 T 14:15, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Interesting, indeed.  And IMDb's description is of no help.

Okay, so I went ahead and watched the episode itself.  The episode does not say specifically where the Fosters live, but they're driving to Heathrow Airport, and it takes them an hour to get there.  In the car, Mrs. Foster says to her husband that she will write to him "from New York."  The next day, she tells the driver she "has a plane to catch for New York."

Even if the plane is dropping Mrs. Foster off at J. F. K. or LaGuardia, the episode gives no indication that Mrs. Foster's daughter lives in New York City.  If, for example, the daughter lives in Long Beach, it would make sense for Mrs. Foster to get dropped off at J. F. K. and then drive to Long Beach.  Since Mrs. Foster is obviously taking her so-called "holiday" in whatever city her daughter lives, and since the episode does not specify that said daughter lives specifically in the city of New York, I'm no longer comfortable with the link being directed to New York City, and have thus changed it to New York (state).

Does this seem reasonable to you?  I mean, even if the daughter does live in the city, it's not incorrect to say Mrs. Foster is taking her "holiday" in New York state; but if the daughter does not live in the city—which might be the case—, then it would be incorrect to say she's taking her "holiday" in New York City.  Does this edit seem reasonable?

Yours,
allixpeeke (talk) 13:32, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

That is fine. Note that the article, The Way Up to Heaven says "The story is written from a limited omniscient point-of-view and takes place in contemporaneous New York City", which seems entirely inaccurate in light of Heathrow Airport. In the long run, it doesn't matter at all, since this is a one-off work of fiction, and even the authors might not have thought about whether they meant the city or the state. In this case, using the state is accurate enough, since they will be in the state of New York whether they are specifically visiting the city or some other region in the state. bd2412 T 14:25, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Well, the article for "The Way Up to Heaven" is about the Roald Dahl short story upon which the Ronald Harwood dramatisation "The Way Up to Heaven" is based.  They may have changed some elements when bringing the story to the small screen.  Without reading said short story, we have no reason to assume the former article is entirely or even slightly inaccurate.  allixpeeke (talk) 09:37, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Expiration date has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Expiration date. Thanks! Legacypac (talk) 11:33, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the notice. Cheers! bd2412 T 17:52, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

infobox edits

Hi, your many edits like this one to insert spaces after commas in text in NRHP infoboxes are all fine. But perhaps it would be good to request that the NRHP infobox generator be fixed, too, because there are 20 to 30,000 more coming on gradually. If you do suggest it, don't mention me, as the programmer doesn't want contact with me. I gave them feedback before which fixed some things in the generator, but there was friction about other stuff too. Some info about the generator is at wp:NRHPhelp. Or, maybe it is not worth while. --doncram 16:00, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps the easiest solution of all would be to get a bot to make these fixes automatically. I am dubious about the utility of asking others to make changes, but I'll give it a try. bd2412 T 16:04, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you

World cities - New York is there, lower left.

Just to say thanks once again for your ongoing efforts to keep the New York-related wikilinks pointing to the right places while the rest of us are distracted by all the discussions. Certes (talk) 18:20, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, that's... quite an image. Cheers! bd2412 T 18:21, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Carrie Wiita (July 11)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Joe Decker was: The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
joe deckertalk 02:17, 11 July 2017 (UTC)


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  • There seems to be some kind of mistake here. I have not submitted anything for evaluation. bd2412 T 02:19, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Carrie Wiita has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Carrie Wiita. Thanks! joe deckertalk 03:05, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Carrie Wiita has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Carrie Wiita. Thanks! Legacypac (talk) 06:45, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
  • I have deleted the draft. I don't see anything coming of it at this point. bd2412 T 19:56, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Expiration date has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Expiration date. Thanks! » Shadowowl | talk 19:54, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

A WP:DPL problem

User:佳峰 is beginning to annoy me. Talk page blanker, ignores requests to fix links which they have made to DAB pages - see 2017 NBA Summer League and the history of that page and that user. The recent timeline:

20:21. I posted a plea on 佳峰's talk page asking them to check their links, with what I hoped might be useful advice and a link to the relevant DABlinks report. (I wasn't the first to do so - see this edit.)

22:03 佳峰 blanks their talk page.

22:07 佳峰 posts another bad link in 2017 NBA Summer League without fixing any of the existing ones. (It was a duplicate of an existing link to a DAB page - but somehow the number of links to DAB pages has crept up from eight earlier today to ten now.)

I could be in a slightly bad mood because that wretched Japanese rivers template scuppered my goal of getting WP:TDD Table 3 Column 3 down below 300 today; but this finding was an additional aggravation. This could be a case where a ton of bricks might be appropriate, despite WP:BRICKS. Narky Blert (talk) 23:41, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

If the conduct continues, I would just revert new edits adding disambiguation links, with a note informing the editor of the revert. bd2412 T 23:52, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
TY for the advice. I've fixed the existing bad links to 2017 NBA Summer League out of the goodness of my heart. If the behaviour continues, I'll try some Pavlovian conditioning. I've looked at a few of the DPL nastygrams user has received, and have seen no case where user did anything about one. WP:UNCONSTRUCTIVE could be a good reason tag. Narky Blert (talk) 20:10, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Expiration date has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Expiration date. Thanks! Legacypac (talk) 01:42, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Oooops

Apologies for this unintentional edit which JFG rightly reverted. I occasionally have some strange page loading problems and I can only assume that it was during one of these that I clicked on the wrong button on a page. Andrewa (talk) 06:32, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Supertopics

"Although ideally subtopics should be titled consistently with their supertopics," where do you get that idea? There are many examples in the MOS that states consistency within articles is desirable, but does not suggest that consistency between articles is. WP:CITE supports consistency within articles not across them; and WP:AT explicitly states "Do not create subsidiary articles: Do not use titles suggesting that one article forms part of another" (Article title format). -- PBS (talk) 14:34, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

In fact in the case of Zurich the majority of English language sources user "Zurich" note "Zürich" and have done for 100s of years, so it is that page that needs moving. The problem is that just like the battle pages there are lots of people who simply support Zürich without presenting evidence. Such support ought to be discounted when a closer closes an RM. The problem is that most closer it seems simply treat opinions expressed as votes. -- PBS (talk) 14:34, 15 July 2017 (UTC)