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Hi - could you do me an enormous favour and have a look at the article I have just created on my local parish church. Any comments or suggestions would be gratefully received. Thanks.. -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 07:44, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This church, presumably now redundant, is currently in the care of the Churches Conservation Trust, details here. I have added it to List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in Southeast England, and added the appropriate category to the article, but thought you might like to update the rest of the article to reflect this. Cheers. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 10:35, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thought of you with this one, London might be out of your "jurisdiction" though, but I thought you might have some books mentioning it.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 19:48, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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A very nice little article, but that infobox overwhelms it. Have you considered partially collapsing it? Eric Corbett 12:36, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I was thinking of gunning for FA with this. What do you think? Can you add anything more?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 18:59, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good, we'll wait two months then. Hope you are well!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 12:22, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Shih^Talk 15:47, 7 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hassocks, I've prepared a different version of the West Sussex list linked above to sync up with the Wiki Loves Monuments tools. It can be seen here: User:Nev1/GradeIWSussex

If it's ok with you, I'd like to move the article into the mainspace. If you want changes made first, do let me know and I'll do my best to sort it out (it is a bit devoid of pictures at the moment). Nev1 (talk) 14:52, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a reference column, so we can copy over the references from the current article. A notes column could be added to include information on current use, what do you reckon? Nev1 (talk) 11:05, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe the ref you just added supports the contention in the sentence "As of 2025 the former chapel is for sale." The use of the current year template means that it is intended to be left in place into the future, 2014, 2015, etc. The ref provided only supports the claim that at the time the listing was placed the chapel was for sale. Changing it to "As of 2013 the former chapel was for sale." would rectify that. Personally I believe that should be in a separate trailing para and should probably read "As of 2013 the property was for sale.". As an aside, I understand that the property has been sold for a nominal sum to a new group of local trustees.not a great ref - just an indication that there are new trustees. Atlas-maker (talk) 16:03, 11 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure that there isn't anything in the local rags at the moment. The transfer of ownership may not have been completed yet, according to my sources, although in practical terms responsibility has passed from the original, rather remote, trustees to the local group. I'll keep an eye out too. Atlas-maker (talk) 13:34, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hassocks, you've probably seen the lists of listed buildings springing up all over the place thanks to the hard work of Nev1. Most of them are in need of a little TLC (things like links for buildings which have articles, images where we have them, date sorting and consistency of date format). If you could help out with any of the lists, it would really be appreciated—we're hoping to have them all ready for 1 September for the start of Wiki Loves Monuments, which leaves quite a lot of polishing to do and not very much time! Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:39, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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In my opinion, the list is well prepared and well referenced. My only concern is that so few of the buildings are actually covered by individual articles. I realize, though, that this is also the case with many similar lists. I have commented further on the AfD discussion page. Keep up the excellent work!--Ipigott (talk) 08:13, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi! I know that the Paley/Austin practice did not do any work on Sussex churches until the arrival of Hubert Austin, but I thought you might be interested in the List of ecclesiastical works by E. G. Paley which is currently at FLC. And if you have any comments to make on the nomination or advice on the list, that would be most welcome. Best wishes, --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 08:56, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you. I didn't find many references on Google Books, which is odd as it is a beautiful, listed building. Adelaide Crescent sounds very interesting as well. So does the Gothic House on Western Road I think, which I may create later--or feel free to do it. Do keep me posted.Zigzig20s (talk) 16:25, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have added the WP Sussex again. By the way, it was probably named after Adelaide of Saxe-Meiningen, but it would be good to find a reference for this.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:12, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Can you find notable residents for this one?Zigzig20s (talk) 23:44, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure there have been, but we haven't found them yet. I love the Adelaide Crescent page btw. Are you interested in creating the red links for the notable residents on it (mostly aristocrats)? I created one and it led to his entire ancestors and descendants, who were all very accomplished--who knew! Are you interested in creating the Gothic house as well? I was also thinking of Swanborough Farm, which is not listed but encompasses two lakes (see their website if you're not familiar).Zigzig20s (talk) 11:38, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Looking forward to the Gothic House article!Zigzig20s (talk) 21:05, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I updated the 'notable residents' section of Adelaide Crescent, which makes it a lot easier to read I think. However, could you please add the specific reference for each resident (at the end of the little paragraph/sentence)? I also added three notable residents I found for Adelaide Mansions. As for the de Worms, this led me to create quite a number of pages...very interesting history in Sri Lankan plantations, etc. This is becoming too big of a distraction from work, though.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:07, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

FYI. This was apparently the private residence of Edward Codrington. Not listed, however. Maybe not worth it.Zigzig20s (talk) 05:17, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Before I create the page, can you please make sure that this is him, by checking the dates?Zigzig20s (talk) 19:37, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We have a problem. If he died in 1902, he can't have lived at Adelaide Crescent until 1913. If you are talking about his son, that would be 3rd Baron according to The Peerage. Can you please check your citation again? Btw, very interesting to note that a member of the Rothschild family lived in Hove, not too far from the Roof-top synagogue!Zigzig20s (talk) 22:01, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why Percy and not Anthony?Zigzig20s (talk) 22:25, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As you say see, when I couldn't sleep last night, I created George de Worms, 2nd Baron de Worms and his son Anthony Denis Maurice George de Worms, which leads to his grandson Charles de Worms (already created by someone else, though not referenced). The patriarch of the family was Solomon Benedict de Worms (1801-1882), and I think Franz Joseph I of Austria made Solomon first Baronet. The connection to the Rothschild family is there, but needs further citations. It looks like they married among themselves several times, which wouldn't be too surprising for the era (my Catholic great-grandparents did too!).Zigzig20s (talk) 15:11, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The DYK project (nominate) 09:22, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

What about the Providence Chapel? Can you find much about it?Zigzig20s (talk) 09:30, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Adjacent is the Providence Chapel, erected as the Nathaniel Episcopal Reformed Church in 1894-6 by Charles Hewitt; the present congregation moved from Church Street in 1965 when their former chapel was demolished.Zigzig20s (talk) 09:32, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

[1] and [2] Followers of William Huntington (preacher).Zigzig20s (talk) 09:35, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think this could easily be a stub. I wonder if it's possible to visit the church (and take pictures inside). I can't find a website for them.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:45, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think there are several Flora Sassoon's. Can you please check your reference for Adelaide Crescent and see if 1835–1919 works?Zigzig20s (talk) 14:19, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Can you help me find a citation for Flora Sassoon's connection to the Middle Street Synagogue, Brighton? The article says the Sassoon family made donations to the synagogue for restoration work, but the sentence is not referenced.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:47, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Listed" complex definitions and the reasons buildings are listed are usually numerous and sometimes very obscure; its not just an award for "historical" or "important" building. To just give that single reason is very misleading and implies it is purely for that reason that, that building has been listed.

Take the Adelaide Crescent for example. It formerly read:

"The east and west sides of Adelaide Crescent were listed separately at Grade II* by English Heritage on 24 March 1950.[43][45] Such buildings are defined as "particularly important [and] of more than special interest".[61]

A single definition has been picked to imply this is the reason the buildings were listed. Buildings are listed for a myriad of reasons or for very small unique features; not just for those two things.
This sort of thing (using A and B to imply C) is forbidden by the Original Research policy: WP:SYNTHESIS.

You should really be using wiki-links to point readers through to the page about Listed Buildings where they can get a full definition without the incorrect or incomplete things implied

Best--Rushton2010 (talk) 17:56, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's frustrating there's not any more updated totals, but it's valid information nevertheless. The issue is that its out of place on the articles about a specific building. Imagine you're a person looking for that information; its not where you're going to look. It should really be under the "History" section of the main Brighton and Hove page (and if there's separate totals for both Brighton and Hove available, in the relevant sections of those pages), and on the specific B&H listed buildings pages such as Grade I listed buildings in Brighton and Hove, Grade II* listed buildings in Brighton and Hove & Grade II listed buildings in Brighton and Hove. As you have been doing in the other articles, make very sure to be clear as to the date of the information so that people are not mislead into thinking its up-to-date figures.

Best--Rushton2010 (talk) 18:32, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good work on those. I'm surprised at the amount of photos. Most of those lists are really lacking photos. Seems to be photos for almost all of them, which is fantastic --Rushton2010 (talk) 19:10, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again. I have just retuned from a holiday, and noticed the edits made by Rushton2010 to articles I am watching. I do not agree with all that he has done, so I have commented on his talk page. You may be interested to see what I have said. Best wishes, --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:29, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again. You mention a certain William Cavendish on your Adelaide Crescent page, when you said he had servants. Is it any one of them?Zigzig20s (talk) 18:24, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I remember wanting to visit the synagogue then and not having the time. Btw, Flora Sassoon is mentioned on the St. Ann's Well Gardens, Hove page, but there is no reference; would you be able to find it possibly? "There was a clock in front of the old pumphouse, donated by Mrs Flora Sassoon, widow of wealthy business man Sassoon David Sassoon of Ashley Park near Walton-on-Thames, who had relocated to Hove with many other members of the Sassoon family. In 1913 Mrs. Sassoon also bought and donated the grounds which became the Croquet Lawns (now the lawn bowling facility). She also donated turf and croquet equipment."Zigzig20s (talk) 22:13, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cavendish's wife "Lady Emilia Augusta" must be a "daughter of," but we're not quite sure whom just yet! Very surprised about St John the Baptist's Church, Hove btw--I always thought it was ugly and looks a bit "working-class," not patrician at all imo. I think it's the colour of the bricks that gives me this impression. Never been inside however--do you happen to know if it's open to the public?Zigzig20s (talk) 17:17, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again. It looks like Leah was Barney Barnatto's daughter, and his wife was Fanny Barnato : [3] and even [4]. Can you please check your citation to see who lived there: his daughter, or his wife? You also seem to have Flora Sassoon's late husband wrong btw. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 02:30, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

On second thoughts, I am getting closer and closer to the idea that there were two Flora Sassoons: 1859-1936, took over her late husband Solomon David Sassoon (1841–1894)'s family business and moved to England after his death; and then another one with different birth and death dates, who moved to England with her husband Sassoon David Sassoon. There is also [www.wikipaintings.org/en/john-singer-sargent/portrait-of-mrs-ernest-g-raphael-nee-florence-cecilia-sassoon-1905 this one] apparently. This link seems to suggest there is only one by using the first one's dates, but they use the second one's husband, which contravenes all my sources for the article I created. So it is very possible that I created the one who did not live in Hove. What do you think?Zigzig20s (talk) 13:05, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. Btw could you please take pictures inside the Church of the Sacred Heart, Hove as well? The other one is closed all the time except for Mass, and I think that may be because Fr Ray has been harassed by homeless people (see his blog) and is afraid of burglaries, so he might be reluctant to have pictures taken inside, although it shouldn't be a problem as it's always closed... Btw do you know if your church is open all the time, or just for Mass? I would love to go in and light a votive candle. I loved doing that at the Church of the Good Shepherd (Beverly Hills, California) every day last summer, but here in Brighton I can't because they're always closed it seems...Zigzig20s (talk) 12:28, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I think I must be right about Flora Sassoon. Also, I'm happy to try and create a page for Leah Barnato, the diamond heiress...Will you please try to take some pictures of inside your church this Sunday btw? They e-mailed me back btw and aren't open mucch because they don't have enough volunteers for it. I wonder how we could find more volunteers.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:24, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think the Flora Sassoon who lived at Adelaide Crescent, may have been Reuben as maiden name. And thus somewhat connected to David and Simon Reuben. I don't really have time to sift through the Reuben family of Baghdad right now though.Zigzig20s (talk) 17:48, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's wrong to write about the croquet donation on Flora Sassoon's page as it must be the other one, whose husband's page I can no longer find right now--can you? It was created by someone else a while ago and I improved it.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:07, 20 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yes, this one: Sassoon David Sassoon. So, I think the croquet/Hove donations should go to this page instead, as it is his wife, not the other one. I'm almost certain, because they're the ones who lived in Walton-on-Thames until he died and she moved to Hove. Also if you can help me find the names of their four children with a citation, that would be great. I think it links up with some of the UK's richest people as I said earlier, so very relevant.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:09, 20 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for creating this Storye book. W.G. Habershon and E.P.L. Brock may have enough material for articles as well, which I can look into when I get a chance. Need to check my various Sussex church books again. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 12:30, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm honoured to have created something considered useful by the great Hassocks! But you should thank Zigzig20s for prompting me to publish it. It still has some loose ends to tie, and I'll do a few of those later today if I can. I agree that the other guys deserve pages also, though be careful, as his bro William was wrongly credited at least once with Ed's work. I think there may be a lot of double-checking to be done here. Have fun! --Storye book (talk) 13:40, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The DYK project (nominate) 08:01, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Excellent work as usual. So are you up for the inn FA then?♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:33, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:02, 22 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Looking forward to seeing your pictures of inside the Middle Street Synagogue, Brighton (although I've seen a youtube video for a preview!). When do you think you'll be able to upload them on Wikimedia Commons please?Zigzig20s (talk) 22:16, 25 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. Btw I wonder if Medina Terrace could lead to an article? Let me know if you find much about it.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:48, 25 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Btw, do you know what happens after M? Is there a lot more to explore still? Also, Montpelier Hall might be good for an article, although I'm not sure it's possible to stretch it. Nemeth has an interesting article about it on his blog.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:06, 25 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Have fun! I created Caroline Rose Hunt's page after I read about her philanthropic endeavours, and this led me to create Highland Park Presbyterian Church (Dallas, Texas) and Mark Lemmon, and now there are many more red links lol...But I'm here until November, so rather keen on looking up local history and visiting more places...I'd like to create a page for Regency Town House as well--I missed the visit last weekend and there are no future dates on their website for now--but I'm not sure if pictures are even allowed during the visit.23:34, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

There's a category.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:40, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What about the Mercure Hotel? I can't tell if it already has a wikipedia page or not (if it used to have another name), but it is listed.Zigzig20s (talk) 14:05, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely. "The grade 2 listed Mercure Brighton Seafront Hotel in Brighton has stuccoed Regency frontage, original mirrors, chandeliers and high-ceilinged ballroom" on their website for a start. Btw what crazy wind today!Zigzig20s (talk) 14:14, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Btw, I also wonder about the Thistle Hotel--when was it built and what was there before--I don't expect it to be listed, but out of curiosity...of course it's a chain: Thistle Hotels. Also, it would be great to expand the Hilton Brighton Metropole, where I've stayed many times.Zigzig20s (talk) 14:22, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Here, the door of the lift (inside, but on the ground floor) would not close because of the massive draft. I had to walk up the stair. So, if you want to make me happy, do expand the Hilton hotel and create the Mercure Hotel as well...and that big building on the way to the lagoon...but hey, up to you. Keep me posted.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:44, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh cool. I mean the one way before the lagoon--I posted a picture from wikimedia commons a few days ago--the big block after Adelaide Crescent, but closer to the sea. But yes, it is fantastic to be able to understand what surrounds us as we go for strolls or even run around for errands. I don't look at the Gothic House the same way any more, and I walk past it all the time as I go to Waitrose a lot. There are a few more interesting buildings on that street towards Churchill Square btw, one of which is HSBC I think (and listed as I recall), and another one is now the Pound Shop but was meant to be an upscale shopping center I think. Btw I think Marine Gate is ugly, but I don't like anything too modern. More to the point, can you find the dates and full names of Wimperis, Simpson and Guthrie? Has the architect, Maurice Bloom, designed other notable buildings?Zigzig20s (talk) 16:42, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Any notable residents at Marine Gate, Brighton?Zigzig20s (talk) 20:10, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. You may want to use this picture. Also massively interested if you can expand Embassy Court--I haven't found much in Google Books, strangely enough. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 12:24, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wow!. OK so, dead in 1887, born in 1812 perhaps? Definitely wife of Sassoon David Sassoon (1832–1867).Zigzig20s (talk) 21:58, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Her tomb in the Novo Beth Chaim Sephardi Cemetery, London, England.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:00, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your article on The Keep, Brighton. I learned about it too late, otherwise I would've gone and papped the Queen for the article!Zigzig20s (talk) 17:51, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'd rather you did the Norfolk Hotel and Embassy Court and other topics while I'm still here for three weeks.Zigzig20s (talk) 05:16, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Looking forward to it.Zigzig20s (talk) 12:33, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I don't think I can find much more. Does your citation say which churches he designed in Hove and Newhaven?Zigzig20s (talk) 21:19, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Not a citable reference, but Nemeth says the Congregational Church is now the United Reform Church. Built on land owned by his father, who btw has a bus named after him and wrote a sermon (or a book?) about colonial slavery (it would be great to see if we have enough info to create his page--he died in 1870, but I can't find his birthdate).Zigzig20s (talk) 21:37, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Btw can you please add a citation at the end of each sentence when you edit his page, to avoid confusion? Thanks.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:46, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Where did you find his birthdate? We need a citation for the first sentence.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:22, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I apologize--it was me. Second google hit, which can't be used as a valid citation. Can you pls help me find one? Anyway, I think it looks fine for now--the only thing I'd like to investigate are the churches he designed, especially if they are listed. Thanks for expanding it.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:32, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I did when I created it actually, with this link, but I didn't cite it because obviously it's not a valid citation.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:45, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if we could take a picture of his tomb? Maybe not so easy to find it--it must be in the Extra Mural Cemetery--never been there.Zigzig20s (talk) 00:03, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think the Central United Reformed Church here, probably deserves its own page. Is it not listed?Zigzig20s (talk) 01:27, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'll ask a councillor and a parliamentary assistant that I know to get it listed. I'd like to create a page for his father--there must be a lot to it--pastor, has written about colonial servitude, major landowner, aristocrat's relative...--but most of it must be buried in some archives somewhere. Do you have much in your books?Zigzig20s (talk) 12:35, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also, regarding a picture of his tomb (and his father's), if you know where it is, I could go during the day. I work from home, so I can go in the afternoon and then work in the evening, etc. So on a sunny day, I could go (though it's a bit creepy to take pictures of tombs I think).Zigzig20s (talk) 12:36, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder where we could find the names and dates of his wife and two children as well?Zigzig20s (talk) 12:37, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also, could we get pictures for your paragraph, "To the rear of the hotel, the land redeveloped in 1985 with an ornamental lake and new rooms replaced a garage which had been built on the site of some livery stables. An 19th-century arched gateway survives from this, leading from the hotel into Norfolk Buildings (a short street); it has a black-painted horse's head on the keystone and the inscription rebuilt 1875"?Zigzig20s (talk) 12:44, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm especially surprised/intrigued about the "lake"??Zigzig20s (talk) 12:55, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How would I add a sandbox to start his article and see where it leads me? If we can make it a reasonable stub, I think that could be fine for now. What I don't want is to create a stub and get it deleted by someone who thinks he was just another pastor. Also if you want to improve Embassy Court soon, that'd be great...and I see the good work you're doing on Bedford Place--I often eat oysters on the corner there--I wonder how long that restaurant's been there. Also, if we could find notable guests for the Norfolk Hotel, that'd be great. Sorry to reply all over the place! Terrible weather today, so absolutely not a good way to go out and take pictures of tombs...Zigzig20s (talk) 13:58, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh btw. You may be interested in expanding this John Wells-Thorpe. Perhaps some of the red links are unnecessary.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:31, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Btw. I think the owner of the Norfolk Hotel is Accor, as Mercure is just a brand.Zigzig20s (talk) 12:59, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Matt,

Thank you for contacting me on this issue. You should have no problems moving Norfolk Hotel back to Norfolk Hotel, Fremantle and turning Norfolk Hotel into a disambiguation page. Just be sure to use the "What links here" link on the sidebar and retarget the links accordingly; there should be no incoming links to the disambiguation page from the body text of articles. Let me know if you have any further questions.

Neelix (talk) 21:31, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Aaaaaah I think the other one exists just to show some? editors that life exists outside Brighton! :-) Victuallers (talk) 23:22, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Your submission of Norfolk Hotel, Brighton at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Struway2 (talk) 18:27, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

All sorted now, ticked and good to go. Noticed that the Antram/Morrice book details had been omitted from the Goulty bibliography so copied it over from the Norfolk Hotel one. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 15:20, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

OK...I think that's pretty much all I can do. I can't find his dates. I also added a non-valid reference for his two marriages and all his children, because I find it useful, but I think this could be moved to his talkpage on a real article if we can't find a better citation. Anyway, can you please help me expand it? It would be great to create it tonight!Zigzig20s (talk) 19:02, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Good. Happy to help a little this week, but I am travelling next week. I'll try to create Arthur Sassoon either tonight or this week as well. I have a sandbox for Arthur Wagner as well.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:37, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Would you like to work on churches next week when I'm away instead?Zigzig20s (talk) 18:13, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Any idea how I can delete this now that I've created the actual page? Thanks.Zigzig20s (talk) 12:00, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just created these, which you may find interesting and may be able to expand perhaps? Arthur Sassoon and Reuben David Sassoon.Zigzig20s (talk) 17:46, 25 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I was wondering if you were still alive! Btw King's Gardens, where Arthur Sasson lived and where the King stayed, is listed and I'd like to see an article there, if possible.Zigzig20s (talk) 16:28, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Btw. Towards the pier after the Mercure hotel, and before the Holiday Inn, there is a "Cavendish Place." I wonder if it's named after the "William Cavendish and his wife Lady Emilia Augusta" mentioned in the Adelaide Crescent article?Zigzig20s (talk) 19:46, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You'll notice there is mention of a William Cavendish for Fife House, but the info about the wife does not match.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:52, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, looks like you've moved on to other projects...Shame!Zigzig20s (talk) 22:13, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. Maybe an article about the whole block, with a sub-section about numbers 1-4? I'm travelling, but happy to keep working on those articles--but it is somewhat more encouraging to see others work on the same articles as well--so I could do some of that in the evening...Btw I recommend adding Rev Arthur Wagner as a possible article-I'll keep trying to expand this userpage.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:38, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

ALSO--this may be of interest to you (and his father and grandfather and two sons, who should have a page too), and his residence Ockenden House is listed, under Ockenden Manor on the Wikipedia page, but on the website British Listed Buildings it is called Ockenden House. Definitely worth an article I think. Also High Beeches is now a famous garden and should probably have its own page and Whittlebury Hall may be listed and thus could have its own page (now a hotel apparently). See this and I think the current baron's brother was a high sheriff for West Sussex. This is getting overwhelming though--we can take our time to do all that. Interesting to note that the elite still owns most listed buildings in the UK though...Zigzig20s (talk) 22:44, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. Just make sure to add a reference for every sentence that you write. I don't make list, start with sentences, so we work a bit differently...I hope you'll help with Goulty as well (and his children need to be fixed as the ref is no good). Thanks.Zigzig20s (talk) 16:10, 6 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So anyway, do you want to work on Goulty/Wagner tonight, or still working on the train ticket? Btw I've just created Brighton Blue, which needs a lot of work obviously (history, ingredients, cultural references possibly), but is a start and has a picture at least.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:23, 6 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

This is just FYI. The archives of your talk page appear to have been corrupted on at least two other occasions than the 2009 incident which you mention at the top of your page. You can find a complete list of the pages here. The problems include, but are not limited to, the pages:
User talk:Hassocks5489/Archives/2010/January/Archives/2010/February
User talk:Hassocks5489/Archives/2013/April/Archives/2013/May/Archives/2013/May/Archives/2013/May/Archives/2013/May/Archives/2013/June/Archives/2013/June/Archives/2013/June/Archives/2013/June/Archives/2013/July/Archives/2013/July/Archives/2013/July
Makyen (talk) 04:25, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]