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==[[User:Cyde|Cyde Weys]]==


[[User:Cyde|'''Cyde Weys''']] has been, for the past month, abusing his administrator privileges. I have seen him block users for small infractions, flame people who speak against him, unblock himself because it was inconvenient, delete templates which have reached a mostly unanimous '''keep''' consensus, troll, and be, in general, not a nice person.

Also, the user [[User:Fake User|'''Fake User''']] is, most probably, a sock puppet of Cyde; on [[WP:TfD]], in the May 15 section, Fake User made many userbox deletion requests (this was of course after Cyde was asked not to make any more userbox deletion requests) at 19:21 UTC, beginning [[WP:TfD#Template:User_AAK|Here]]. Ten minutes later, at 19:30, Cyde went through and added "'''Subst and delete, not an encyclopedic template'''" to EVERY one of Fake User's requests. This tells me that Fake User (added just a day or two after Cyde's promise to not make any more userbox deletion requests) is almost definitely a sock puppet of Cyde in order for him to keep deleting things without reprimand. Not to mention, everywhere I go, Cydebot is screwing up User pages.

Cyde is rude, patronizing, denigrating, and seems to believe that Wikipedia is "not a community"; it is simply an encyclopedia and nothing more. I belive that Cyde needs to be de-admined, asked to take a Wikibreak, or at least spoken sternly to. Because of Cyde, I, myself, have been as of late contemplating leaving my beloved Wikipedia. I am at my wits' end, and I do not wish to be "[[Cyber-bullying|cyber-bullied]]" by this admin anymore. Nor does anyone else. --[[User:PHDrillSergeant|<font color="blue">Porphyric Hemophiliac</font>]] [[User_talk:PHDrillSergeant|<font color="green">§</font>]] 01:03, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

:Although not directly affected, I have definately seen Cyde act certain ways that are very inappropriate for an admin [[User:Paul Cyr|Paul Cyr]] 01:47, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
::Same here. He has nomed so many userboxes that it isn't even funny [[User:Aeon1006|Aeon]] 17:13, 20 May 2006 (UTC)


==<s>[[The NoZe Brotherhood]] and [[Belly dance#External Links]]</s>==
==<s>[[The NoZe Brotherhood]] and [[Belly dance#External Links]]</s>==

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If you would like to see which advocates are currently accepting new cases you may check this list of currently available advocates.

Requesting advocacy

AMA members will respond to your requests after reviewing your statement below. You do not have to identify yourself (with your Wikipedia user name) or the subject of the dispute (although explaining the nature of the problem may help us find a suitable advocate). However, at a minimum you will need to provide some contact information so that the advocate can get in touch with you.

You can also contact individual advocates directly. Some advocates have posted personal statements on a separate page for member statements, which may help you in selecting which advocate to work with. Some advocates have also announced their availability here.

Members' Advocates offer their assistance in representing you or assisting the presentation of your side of an existing dispute. If you are looking for Mediation or Arbitration, you should start that process in the appropriate manner, and then contact the AMA if you want someone to help represent your side. Members' advocates will also assist in other personal conflicts between users prior to mediation or arbitration stages.

Make sure you read and understand the Members' Advocacy Information and FAQ pages before making a request for advocacy.

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Requests for assistance

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Please place new requests directly below, at the top of this section.


I was a cabalist for the mediation in these two cases. User:Mel Etitis was involved in both of these cases. I provided some recommended solutions, but Mel refuses to follow what I said. In the case of the NoZe brotherhood, he completely ignored my suggestion (and the suggestion of a prior RfC). In the case of the belly dance article, he continues to belittle me and question my methods, as well as questioning the mediation process in general. I would like to see these issues resolved, but I don't think the informal mediation process worked (I've already closed both cases anyway). I would like to bring these up to WP:MEDCOM, but I don't know how or even if that's the best way. Also, if this isn't the place for this sort of problem, please direct me to the appropriate place. Thanks, Amalas =^_^= 21:39, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I feel like I'm being ganed up on over this article. Theresa knott (talk · contribs) (an admin) feels I'm bullying one of the main proponents of the "jackets" section, whereas I feel I'm being bullied by her, and I feel she's not enforcing policy in regards to JaysCyYoung (talk · contribs). I could really use a hand with this. WP:AN/I is getting me nowhere. Thank you very much. Ardenn 06:10, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Conduct of a user and two administrators

Hi, I'm planning on taking an issue to mediation. The issue is that a user made personal attacks against me, and when I reported it, two admins did and end-run-around of the dispute resolution process. Basically, I went to the admin noticeboard to ask for someone to take a look at WP:PAIN because mine and other peoples' complaints were not being addressed. Admin A made bad-faith remarks against me, and when I tried to discuss the problem regarding why I had posted and why I felt personal attacks were made against me, he cherry-picked the argument and I feel his entire discussion was a red herring. After I asked him to explain his conduct he stopped responding. Immediately after I asked him to explain his conduct, admin B who I feel was likely aware of the issue removed my complaint from WP:PAIN. Although policy allows him to do it, the timing of the removal and refusal for admin A to respond to my posts on WP:ANB makes me feel that they have taken the issue with bad-faith from the beginning and have intentionally pulled an end-run-around of the dispute resolution process.

I ask that an advocate help me present my case for mediation. Thanks. Paul Cyr 22:40, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dealing with a problematic user

I'd like some advice as to how to deal with User:NoseNuggets, a frequent editor to pages related to American sports. I am familiar with him through Current sports events, where his regular edits to the page have seriously lessened the quality of it. He consistently puts his edits in the past tense, italic type and casual style, even though he has been told several times that current-events pages should be in present tense, roman type and headline style. New editors to the page see his edits and follow his style rather than the correct one. I have been told NoseNuggets' edits to other pages are also of low quality. His edits to Current sports events have improved somewhat -- they are less SportsCenter-ish than they were before.

In January, I created an RFC page to bring attention to NoseNuggets' conduct, but he more-or-less ignored it. I've also left messages on his talk page, to no effect. -- Mwalcoff 23:48, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Assistance/guidance is requested on this article. The problem relates to linking to a blog that is, IMO. clearly unsuitable for use as a source, according to wikipedia guidelines. I removed the parts of the article that relied on unreliable sources, precipitating an edit war and evenutal page protection (the reverting had been happening for months before I got involved), and a huge discussion... not the first either... as a glance through the talk page article will show. The problem site is here, and the site owners/users are aware of the the Wikipedia article, as can be seen here, which is an article created right after my first edit. The nature of the site is obvious, as is the attitude of its inhabitants. The justification for keeping a link to it appears to be that "it shows she is criticised on the internet". I consider this unacceptable, since it can be used to justify the inclusion of any grudge blog or hate site run by anyone at all. I have repeatedly asked for the statements in the article to be backed up by more reliable sources... none have been forthcoming. The discussions on the talk page are going nowhere (and have gone nowhere in the past from the Talk Page archives), and I need advice on how to handle this situation. - Motor (talk) 22:53, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

JOHNNY LEE CLARY article deleted with predudice

The article Johnny Lee Clary, and Johnny Clary were deleted with predudice as user Tawker and also user IrishGuy will not allow any articles with the name Johnny Lee Clary calling it vanity. This is unfair and biased. Can I please get assistance on this matter? user: [TheKingOfDixie]

Rapture Article

A few members will not allow Gods 40 Day Warning to be a part of the Rapture web site. The whole topic of the rapture is a POV. Gods 40 Day Warning meets the criteria to be included in the article. As a compromise I have added it to the "Alternative Rapture" section. Can you please address the issue in the Rapture discussion section and put this debate to rest. Thank you, whatif

There is an instance whereby a discussion was brought up by myself pertaining to a political powder keg pertaining to the Australian government's negligence to identify indigenous cultures through recognition via sovreignty, but to utilise dual-name schemes to appease whilst also cashing in on tourism via the 'exotic' or 'cultural' falsification of a region.

The issue in question is the matter of Ayers Rock, dual named Uluru. The current article has a majority of editors who regularly maintain it who are of the inclination that it's dual name should not be used; playing devils advocate (as I believe as opinion that it should be purely Uluru, yet from a legal and legitimacy standpoint it should be Ayers Rock until the Government aknowledges it's aboriginality).

To cut a long story short, rather than answering the one question I posed, I seem to have set off this powder keg with allegations flying at me from all directions. Rather than answering the question I put forwards (that being 'what was the cause for decision last time the issue was raised?') certain editors put it to a poll, however a straw man poll at that; the poll summary was set up biased, incorrect and farcically and the voting commenced immediately with no interaction from third parties.

If anyone can help, it will be truly appreciated, the running commentary of my argument and the respondants is on the talk page. Jachin 16:46, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war is escalating on POV and factual issues; other party in dispute won't register and asserts that neutrality is impossible. How do I proceed? Alba 19:08, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request withdrawn, other party began talking. Alba 16:48, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bookofsecrets vs PHDrillSergeant

About 6 hours ago, I happened upon the Tennessee discussion page, where a user named Bookofsecrets was sparking and re-sparking ana rgument about the offensiveness of the word "southern". I posted a solution to this arguement, and was almost immediately contacted by Bookofsecrets about how "he had not asked for" my "petty opinion" Here. I responded to him in his User Talk page, replying in an intelligent (albeit angry) way, letting him know that I did not need his "permission to post on an article's talk page" Here. His reply was that I was offended him for pointing the finger at him (on an unrelated issue). To this, I replied with another message informing him that I was not talking about him on that particular issue, giving him a link to egotism (which I thought he might find useful) Here. His reply was thus:

Kid you aren't old enough to know what a moron is. Hush your mouth and go to bed before your mammy spanks your butt. --Bookofsecrets 23:55, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Needless to say, I am particularly peeved at this person who believes that not only is he the center of the universe, but he is superior and no one should argue with his superior opinion. He has restarted the "southern" arguement on the Tennessee page several times after a conclusion has been reached.

I realize I should have simply ignored his rants, but I did not and now I am fed up with this guy. P.H. - Kyoukan, UASC 00:17, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Israelbeach Vs. Woggly

In the past 24 hours there has been an escalation in the war of the words between user:Israelbeach and user:Woggly. Woggly who never apologized for her personal attacks against Israelbeach was never addressed or blocked for these attacks by the administrators. In fact, she has been attacking Israelbeach, whose identity is for all to see, from an anonymous position. Not very fair or ethical!

Israelbeach, in turn, revealed Woggly's identity, something he was wrong for doing. According to Wiki policy: "This sort of behavior is blockable on its own (for example, moving another user's User Talk page), but should be considered an aggravating factor for the purposes of the block. For example, behavior that would earn a 1 day ban might become a 1 week ban if the Administrator believes the behavior was for the purposes of harassment. The block should only be enforced after warning the user and these pleas go ignored."

Israelbeach was warned by user:jpgordon and according to the logs deleted all material within minutes. Israelbeach should not have been blocked according to Wiki policy as he never ignored any warnings by adm but reacted quickly to them.

Woggly is now rightfully worried about legal action that Israelbeach can take against her for stating, without substance, that he was "dangerous" and other accusations made in front of his local community and the world public. She now appears to be leaving Wikipedia on her own.

Solution: Both Israelbeach and Woggly are professional editors and should be encouraged to stay with the Wiki project. The block on Israelbeach should be removed immediately, as it only serves to increase conflict. Remember, after a first warning, Israelbeach on his own removed all personal data even though he thought he was correct due to that personal information regarding Woggly was posted by Woggly with a direct link to Wikipedia that anyone can find on a simple Google search.

Both Israelbeach and Woggly should be warned with no punitive action taken and instructed not to interact with one another on Wikipedia. These are two professionals with tremendous pride - do not expect either to aplogize at this point. We must encourage both users to stay, to avoid court action (with the documentation that Israelbeach has on these clear personal attacks, no judge would deny Woggly's guilt) and keep Wikipedia operating with less negative news coverage.

I do not blame Woggly or Israelbeach for their now wanting to resign from Wikipedia, I place the blame solely on the desk of the administrators (with the exception of user:jpgordon) who could have taken action on the personal attacks which started this conflict. Woggly and Israelbeach are both assets to Wikipedia, all action should be taken to keep them here. I will be posting this message in how to resolve this matter on other pages. Nancetlv 12:14, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Harassment Campaign

There seems to be a campaign going on to harass the Stephanie Adams page and it has gotten out of hand. One section in particular was verified beyond necessity, but should not be necessary. Now someone else is asking for additional verification, which is ridiculous. We would like to have all tags removed from the page and end this issue once and for all. -GODDESSY

Advocate Team Re: RfC Woggly

I am presently coordinating a team of advocates re: my RfC for harassment / threats by user:woggly. I welcome you to be a member. Simply read the RFC lodged against me by user:woggly and the RFC which I have filed against her. It's really simple stuff when all of her harassment and my (and others) various attempts to resolve any issues are in black and white. Please also view the talks pages where Woggly admits to harassment and infers that she will not cease. Thank you for your consideration. Best wishes, IsraelBeach 16:09, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It would be helpful if you linked to the RfC in question. --Darth Deskana (talk page) 22:19, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request assistance, guidance and comment

Hello - I had a good browse about and this seems the most sensible place to get some guidance and help. This started out as me making some comments on another user’s talk page, since that user was blanking and hiding things on it for no reason. I pointed out that blanking/hiding was not a good thing and that other users may presume bad faith. As a result of getting nowhere with the user directly I went to 3O and got an outside view (partially to make user understand that this wasn’t personal, and partly to reassure myself that I wasn't going too far or being too harsh). 3O opinion was broadly in line with what I had already said - as a result of that the user "upped the stakes" by "archiving" his talk page to hide it all and accused me of stalking him. I posted once more within the dispute before it became clear to me the user had no concept of things and was not even grasping the issue. As a result of the user making a very clear accusation of stalking against me I posted my final thoughts and left the situation (I have no time for people who behave like that). User made some enquiries on the issue to the 3O user, clearly not understanding the 3O process. As a result of a few days rest the user has now (as a logged out anon IP) decided to post sockpuppet tags on both my and 3O users talk page, in the belief that because 3O gave similar view to my own he/I were socks (total rubbish, as both our contribs and history, +checkuser if needed would happily prove). It is clear to me that user has himself broken sockpuppet rules by logging out to post the sockpuppet notices - and that that action is warnable - but I am not directly getting involved with him again - he reminds me of someone I used to work with years ago, plays the naive card, baits and baits then as soon as anyone turns the word calls rape (or in this case stalker/sockpuppet). Any help that AMA members could provide would be greatly received, as I am now doing what I need to protect myself - aware that characters like this are smear merchants. The relevant links are: user talk page where it all started, history of that talk page, user kept deleting/moving comments, users contributions, 3O user who has now been caught up in it, anon IP who went around posting sock notices. Thanks for your time, SFC9394 18:26, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to ask for assistance regarding the article on the Regular Grand Lodge of England which seems to come under repeated attacks by members of the much larger United Grand Lodge of England which are attempting to use the article to make the Regular Grand Lodge of England look bad. Since the United Grand Lodge of England is much larger it seems as if anyone trying to put a neutral point of view on RGLE hasn't got a chance.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Artifex99 (talk • contribs)

Actually, what is really going on is a total lack of understanding of Wikipedia policies due to not reading them. This user does not even know how to sign his own posts. That being said, there are a number of issues that need to be resolved, among them:
  • Proper application of NPOV (this user believes that anything negative against RGLE violates NPOV, but the RGLE claims against UGLE, which are also negative, are perfectly allowable.)
  • Notability - third party research indicates that RGLE may be an entity perpetrated by just a few individuals, and with almost no real presence except for a web page, so it may not meet notability guidelines.
  • Misleading "facts" - part of the vandalism going on is stating that RGLE is what is called a "regular Masonic jurisdiction", when it in fact is not, as evidenced by a letter from UGLE (who grants regularity) that is posted on the talk page.
To that end, I would like to request some sort of intervention, if possible, to decide the accuracy and disposition of the article. MSJapan 19:20, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Personal Attacks and repeated reversions

An anon. user and a User:Jean Mercer have made several personal attacks on me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Reactive_attachment_disorder#MEDIATION http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Attachment_disorder

and continue to revert my edits to two pages:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactive_attachment_disorder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attachment_disorder

The two have resorted to personal attacks, "given your past history of defamation"..."posted defamatory comments." etc.

They won't respond directly to my attempts to contact them. The anon user refuses to identify him/her self. I would like to see the two pages in question protected from their abuses and for them to be repremaneded or at least stopped from their behavior. I am a relatively new user and really don't know what to do. I don't quite understand my options and it all seems so technical. I did file a "mediation" request...I think, but am not sure if I did it right. If someone could help me I'd really appreciate it. User: AWeidman


Personal attack and prejudice

I need help with User:Bargholz. On Talk:Earth Day, we have a disagreement but he\she resorted to personal attack, calling me a liar, dishonest, etc. Moreover, he\she has shown prejudice against Malaysian (I'm a Malaysian) despite the fact that the disagreement at hand has nothing to do with nationality. It's hard to keep myself cool down with all those personal attack flying. At the moment, I've decided to stop responding to him/her. I hope he will be reprimand for his misbehavior. Please help out.

Moreover, he is violating WP:NOT, in particular WP:OR. I've already requested for WP:3O and the person responding with to the request agrees with me about original research. See this to for the third person opinion.

Thanks __earth (Talk) 16:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If the user is repeatedly resorting to personal attacks, a user conduct request for comment may be in order. First, be sure that the user has been sufficiently warned and given a chance to change their ways. If this is unsuccessful, I will warn the user and give the user a change to change. If this fails, we have good grounds for a request for comment. I'll gladly aid you.
So, firstly, can you please provide some difflinks such as this one of the personal attacks? Thanks. --Darth Deskana (talk page) (my RfA!) 16:51, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gladly:

1. This is the time when the person called me as an ideologue just because we have differing opinion.

2. This calling me of distorting fact and having an agenda where else I was simply adhering to WP:OR, WP:NOT and WP:CITE.

3. Liar, dishonest, dishonorable, having secret agenda, etc.

4. Prejudice against Malaysian Note that "Saya bukan orang Malaysia" Means I'm not Malaysian. Reading it in context, I feel it's almost racism.

5. at my talk page, he calls me "Kamu adalah linkungan fanatik yang pembohong tentang sensorsip" That means "you are a lying fanatic about censorship". (You may get another Malaysian or Indonesian user to confirm my translation.) I've responded to that at his talk page.

6. "juvenile attempt" remark. Also, another cycle of calling me a liar.

7. This is me telling him to attack the point, not the person. He ignored that.

I'm kinda tired right now and going to bed. It's exhausting trying to control myself from resorting to counter personal attack with another one. So, hope to hear from you later. Thanks. __earth (Talk) 17:23, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

as the day passes, he starts to defame me by telling other ppl that I'm a fanatic, insulting, etc. at here, here and here. __earth (Talk) 10:43, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh the fun. More on how all Malaysians are liar, white civilization is superior to all the others, etc despite all those things have nothing to do with the dispute on Earth Day article. __earth (Talk) 10:00, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Overzealous reverting

I have come across someone who seems to have taken reverting vandalism too far and is reverting quite useful entries based on his/her own standards of what is potential vandalism. You just need to go through the user talk page to see this. Is there a mechanism to report this sort of person?

195.188.152.12 08:50, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What reverts are you referring to? --Darth Deskana (talk page) 09:05, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
User_talk:Srikeit 195.188.152.12 09:08, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Taking a quick glance at the user's contributions reveals nothing out of the ordinary. It would be helpful if you would provide links such as this one. You get these by copying the link from the "(last)" button on a contributions page and placing it in [square brackets]. --Darth Deskana (talk page) 09:11, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
To be honest I can't be bothered as there are better things to do with life. It just seems to me that this person has confused fighting obvious vandalism with content editing and set him/herself up as an editor. And anything contributed by someone without an account and without an edit summary is automatically reverted by him/her. Have a look at Lien-Da 195.188.152.12 09:17, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I see one inappopriate revert from this user on in the last 100 edits to that page. Moreover, edits that do not include edit summaries explaining an edit more thoroughly can be easily mistaken as vandalism in some cases. The user made a mistake... I know I've made the same mistake before. --Darth Deskana (talk page) 09:21, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I see 8 posts on his user talk page in the last 7 days disputing reverts. Anyway, it seems you feel his conduct is acceptable and I bow to that as you are (presumably) a long standing Wikipedian. 195.188.152.12 09:38, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
over 30 reverts in the last 24 hours? Special:Contributions/Srikeit Is this normal??? I'm amazed nyone bothers to contribute anything to Wikipedia at all with this sort of nonsense going on. 195.188.152.12 09:52, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was talking about the page you gave me specifically. I'm sorry if you feel that reverting vandalism such as this is nonsense, but I dread to think of a Wikipedia with all that stuff in it. --Darth Deskana (talk page) 09:55, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I could really use an advocate on this mediation cabal case, I feel like I am being ganged up on.

Thanks. Ardenn 02:09, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moon for sale revert war

There are a few anonymous users consistently reverting the Moon for sale article with no edit summary or participation on the article's Talk page. Two of us have tried to discuss this with one of the users but have received no response; in fact, the user has blanked his or her talk page a few times instead of responding. It's possible that the anonymous users (User talk:66.83.170.38 & User talk:66.253.209.150) are sockpuppets of User talk:Ufviper - there are notes on a few of their talk pages indicating this has been an issue in the past.

I'd appreciate some help sorting out this mess and figuring out where to go from here. Thanks! --ElKevbo 03:16, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This seems fairly simple to me. If the user keeps up the disruption, the user can be blocked. It's part of the blocking policy, more specifically, WP:BLOCK#Disruption and WP:BLOCK#Users who exhaust the community's patience. A request for checkuser could also be filed against the IPs and the user in question, but it is probably not neccesary as the IPs can be blocked simply for being disruptive. If you have made sufficient attempts to warn the user and open contact, then I suggest you go down to WP:ANI and ask to have the user blocked. --Darth Deskana (talk page) 22:06, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked and Banned new user, desperate for help

I have no desire to be working my way around a block, but I have no other choice to contact an advocate. My name is Straightinfo, and I am a new user of Wiki who began editing the [Bernie Sanders] article. I had my additions repeatedly warped and twisted by one or two users, I reverted many of these changes. Finally, an Admin named [Heah] semi-protected the page, which blocked me from saving my work, but allowed the other users to edit it. They claim my addtions were a violation of NPOV or that my citations were worthless, neither of which is true, you be the judge.

I have attempted to explain my edits as clearly as possible, have engaged in debate wth the other editors, and have tried to discuss what's happened with as many others as I can, many of whom were supportive of the changes. Admin Heah simply blocked me, claiming I'd violated the 3RR rule, which I did not (check the record) and extended that ban for 10 days when I challenged hs decision. I desperately need an advocate here. I thought wiki was a neutral place which promoted fairness and good information, I am becoming deeply disappointed. All I want to do is add to wiki Please help. ---[Straightinfo]

Edit war in Cuba and related article

I have a dream that the Cuba article, (and a few related articles), can actually become encylopedic. The editing process with these articles has descended into an edit war. Two, perhaps three users appear to me to be intractable, either not responding at all in one case, and refusing to comply with Wikipedia policy WP:NPOV, WP:V etc.. in all three cases. Reasoning with these three people hasn't worked, and I hope for help or guidence to end this edit war and to bring these articles back to be encylopedic. BruceHallman 18:54, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dealing With Religious War on Jack Hyles

A group of people have taken it on themselves to post a section of defamatory assertions against Jack Hyles, which they justify by pointing to various newspaper articles and anectdotes. I believe these people will not allow the Jack Hyles page to be anything other than a gossip page devoted to destroying the reputation of Jack Hyles; indeed, one editor recently pointed out that the page has already been through an edit war. I am well-aware that Jack Hyles is controversial and that many people hate him, but I have never seen anyone prove the claims made directly against him. In fact, one of the editors supporting the attacks defends his stand by stating that he never claimed that Jack Hyles actually did the things of which he is accused; he simply wants to have all the published accusations against Jack Hyles listed on Wikipedia. This is not the sort of content an encyclopedia article should contain.

Requesting advocate in dealing with 3 users

In my view the three users are quite disruptive and are making an effort to push systematic bias. They are also extrmely rude and incivil to not just me but everyone they feel are "anti-kurdish" which basicaly is anyone that does not share their pov and are not administrators.

Also note User:Bertilvidet's efforts on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Turkish Kurdistan by posting it on roughly 14 talk pages: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14]

"Suprisingly" most voted keep

--Cool CatTalk|@ 15:52, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just think this place is dead given I just fixed section header days after my post. --Cool CatTalk|@ 21:06, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
LOL. I've given all users civility warnings. Computerjoe's talk 09:36, 8 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mongolian Politics

Latebird is attacking Lemonhead. User Latebird is kept posting unverified information on Miyeegombo Enkhbold and kept changing the dates and posts in his "early life" section with not verified backup. Please check the talk page of that article regarding this. User: Latebird is trying to falsely praise Miyeegombo Enkhbold who unconstitionally overthrew Tsakhiagiyn Elbegdorj's government in Mongolia.

I suggested Miyeegombo Enkhbold is 1/ Latebird's idol or 2/ his relative or whoever bribed him and gained illegal financial gain. But common sense is nobody idolize someone who is lower knowledgeable than the person. I see Latebird and assume Latebird most possibly belong to the second category, and according to wikipedia policy it is prohibited to contribute an article by the relative of the subject. Wikipedia is not a place where relatives of someone falsely praise its relative please take appropriate action for Latebird. Thank you. Lemonhead 18:36, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm having trouble with an editor insisting on his POV on Miyeegombo Enkhbold (similarly on Tsakhiagiyn Elbegdorj). He keeps deleting sourced and verified information, replacing it by potentially libelous rumours. He is often quite uncivil in edit summaries and discussion. Other editors have noticed the problem before, but either lost interest or lacked the time to do much about it. I have asked for opinions in several places, including WP:WQA, which resulted in basically no echo at all. What I'm hoping for here is advice on how to escalate this properly whithout annoying too many people (myself included). --Latebird 23:57, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

'Roman Catholic Church' dispute - new user needs help

I've never done this before, so I'm new to this, but I'm asking for assistance from an advocate regarding a dispute on the Talk:Roman Catholic Church#REQUESTED MOVE to Catholic Church page. As you can see, I've requested to move the article from Roman Catholic Church to Catholic Church. I have been making a good faith effort to try and frame my arguments around the naming conventions and common sense, but I feel that others are voting their instincts and not listening to my case, and are essentially creating a new standard exclusively for Roman Catholic Church. I have tried to reach a compromise, but all of those have failed. Please contact me through my talk page. Thanks. --Hyphen5 00:52, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

'Burning of Washington' Talk page disagreement with a new Wikipedian

Hi. I'm asking for assistance from an advocate regarding an ongoing disagreement on the Talk:Burning of Washington page, specifically in the "Canadian involvement (?)" section currently at the bottom of the page. A new Wikipedian, User:Godfather of Naples, is IMO violating Wikipedia etiquette. I have been trying to keep my own temper and not respond to the incivility with any aggressive or offensive comments, but I'm finding it difficult.

Could an advocate please look at the discussion on the above page and step in, or contact me through a Wikipedia message or a personal email? Any help would be very much appreciated. Cheers, Madmagic 23:59, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spice Girls articles dispute - help need please

I would like to ask for assistance concerning disputes involved the Spice Girls page, and the individual girls pages (Geri Halliwell, Melanie Chisholm, Emma Bunton, Victoria Beckham and Melanie Brown). The issue involves one particular member - Hotwiki. He has constantly dished out insults, personal attacks and threats and acts in a rude and arrogant manner (see Geri Halliwell talk page). Despite improvements made to the pages, he constantly reverts changes - as illustrated on the Emma Bunton, Geri Halliwell and Melanie Chisholm pages.

The main dispute revolves around the Spice Girls discography. On the Spice Girls talk page, I suggested that solo information should be removed and put on the girls own pages. My point is that is a Spice Girls discography - not a Victoria Beckham or Geri Halliwell discography. Very few of the other discographies on Wikipedia that is about a group includes solo info - The Beatles, ABBA, Jackson 5, Backstreet Boys etc. Also, it was suggested that the Spice Girls library be absorbed into the discography to make it a comphrensive collection of the groups work. The consensus from the discussion agreed with the point of view - Hotwiki being the only exception. I have no yet started these changes to the discography, becuase it is very clear the user will simply revert them and I refuse to be draw into such a petty and childish game - so I would glady appreciate assistance, please. Rimmers 19:26, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Does "too much" information warrant a revert?

My consolidation of two sections of the Parsi article [15] was reverted by SouthernComfort because "rv unilateral rewrite - you have inserted too much opinion and disregarded that there are other editors involved here".

My request for advocacy with respect to my writeup:

  • what is considered "too much opinion"?
  • must a rewrite (of my own stuff incidentally) be discussed - particularly since it simply covers matter that is already present, but does so in greater detail?
  • is a unilateral rv the correct course of action for a "unilateral rewrite"?

Although SouthernComfort's argument may initially seem plausible, on closer inspection I've determined that SouthernComfort's revert is not for any formal reason's per-se, but simply because the rewrite clarified something which he does not approve of (or does not mirror his personal opinion).

Thus my request for advocacy: Is SouthernComfort's revert legitimate or should my edit remain and be developed (for example, to be less verbose).

-- Fullstop 13:17, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute over Vicarius Filii Dei article

I'm a newbie. I stumbled across this article and was surprised at its one-sided nature, and its errors of fact. A number of the corrections I have tried to make get removed, and dubious tags have been removed without providing the requested verification. The principal other party has refused mediation.

To keep it simple, the writer(s) of the original article was so unfamiliar with the material that Our Sunday Visitor was called Our Catholic Visitor, and this unfamiliarity with the material partly explains the problems with the article.

Present facts in dispute include the alleged 1832 source and the 1917 and 1941 disavowals by the journal. --DrPickle 14:22, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yet more dishonesty. Bob Pickle is not a "newbie". He is a promoter of a notorious anti-Roman Catholic conspiracy theory on religious internet sites and blog sites. Even the religion that first promoted the claim, the Seventh-day Adventists, and did so for over a century, has now disowned it and the Church's own historian has admitted that the Church's "photographic evidence" was doctored and not real. Pickle is annoyed that users on Wikipedia will not allow him to promote the myth as fact on WP (among other things he did was to try to add in links to his website to the article!!!). All users who have covered the issue on WP have pointed out that his claims have not a leg to stand on, including a former believer of the claim who when he checked it out realised that the claims in the conspiracy does not have a leg to stand on and rests on the sum total of a forged mediaval document, forged photographs, three lines in a minor US magazine in the 1910s (which then admitted it had its facts wrong, twice) and a couple of words in a two or three books out of the millions written about Catholicism. That is the sum total of the "evidence". Pickle promotes the claim of a Catholic Church-wide conspiracy (including a Catholic conspiracy on Wikipedia to supress the evidence without his (or the promoters of the claim) being able to point to a single independently verified piece of evidence, produce the photograph that supposedly "proves" the conspiracy theory's truth despite a century of searching (naturally the Catholic Church destroyed the photograph! lol).
Anyone who doubts Pickle's supposed "newbie status" (ie. just an ordinary contributor) should simply look at his contributions, which are about promoting this claim (and his website) and little else!!! Or notice how in asking for mediation (which no-one but himself supported) he asked that only neutral admins (ie, not those under the sway of the Catholic Church and its Wikipedia conspiracy) get involved. That pretty much sums up his antics here. He is here to promote his POV agenda, his own POV website and his own POV opinions and to push a conspiracy theory even dismissed by most mainstream Protestants and now disowned by its own authors in Seventh-day Adventism. FearÉIREANN\(caint) 21:23, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The above is totally uncalled for.
I am a newbie on Wikipedia.
Even if some of the above diatribe were true, it does not justify including erroneous material in Wikipedia. Either Our Sunday Visitor disowned the 1915 statements in 1917 and 1941 or it did not. Either the 1832 source said "tiara" or it said "miter."
The authentic and accurate quote I provided clearly said "miter." It says nothing about a "tiara." And scans of the 1917 and 1941 statements in question, scans which have been available on the internet for years, clearly show that OSV NEVER stated that VFD was not on the miter. Thus Jtdirl is lying (a venial sin according to his theology) when he makes his claim about the 1832 source and about those 1917 and 1941 issues, and he cannot provide any evidence to the contrary.
In short, this whole situation makes Wikipedia look very, very bad. And something needs to be done about it. As it stands, it calls into question the reliability of Wikipedia's information, and the trustworthiness and objectivity of its editors. --DrPickle 14:57, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
My theology!!! That just about sums it up. I'm obviously part of a Wikipedia Roman Catholic conspiracy, secretly under orders from Pope Benedict to silence Pickle and his "truth" and force Wikipedia to become Roman Catholic. The actual truth about Pickle can be seen in his Wikpedia edits, almost all if which of it is on the one topic which are simply a rehash of his stuff on his Pickle Publishing website FearÉIREANN\(caint) 23:17, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
To the contrary, I have never engaged in researching this topic to this depth. I have never read Gregorovius before, and thus did not know that part of the coronation ceremony of the popes was based on the Donation of Constantine. Neither have I ever read Lorenzo Valla's ciritique of the Donation, in which he equates Vicarius Filii Dei with Vicarius Dei. These points are not on my web site, yet.
My website does quote a quote of the 1832 source, which shows Jtdirl's error. I should soon have the original 1832 source on interlibrary loan, and then will be able to provide a scan of it.
I will merely add that, as an adult, I have always been treated with respect by Roman Catholics, laity and priests alike, whether in the U.S., Asia, Europe, or Latin America. Not once do I ever recall them accusing me of being anti-Catholic because of my views on papal supremacy. I therefore think it inappropriate for anyone reading these exchanges to assume that Jtdirl's actions and words reflect the attitudes of Catholics in general. --DrPickle 16:38, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute Resolution - has been going on for 2 weeks..

Have had difficulty with 2 users. Need help from an arbitrator who can guide me to do make the most effective dispute resolution actions. Contact me for full details, or see my user page. Thanks, Hamsacharya dan 22:35, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you use Requests for comment. Another user in this dispute has since (wrongly) accused me of incivility, amongst other things, so I'm not becoming any more involved. Computerjoe's talk 18:57, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RfC dispute

An RfC has been put up against me.The person who has put up the RfC wants action to be taken against me for past acts of vandalism committed by me.However I have already been suitably blocked for these offences.My positive edits far outnumber my vandalism.Also,yesterday I was blocked for 24 hours,perhaps so that I would be unable to contest against the RfC.Also a person who has never contacted me before has claimed he has tried to resolve the dispute over my vandalism with me.I request you to view Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Prasi90 for more details.Please help me.I am being targetted and harassed.Also view Special:Contributions/Prasi90 Prasi90 12:10, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute Resolution with Striver

I have been undergoing a dispute with User:Striver. The user has already undergone an RFC last July (of which I had not participated because I had not contacted the user at that point). Recently he has been making a variety of articles which I felt were either not notable or violated POV Fork/Fork, thus I listed many of them with AFD tags. The user has since created an RFC on myself claiming that I was "stalking" him. I feel that this is untrue and that the Rfc was solely created to try and stop me from rightfully putting AFD tags on his articles many of which I feel hurt the Wikipedia project. In addition to this, the user has created entire Wikipedia projects with the sole purpose of salvaging his articles from afds, has broken with WP:Civility by cursing at another user, has falsely called vandalism in page history summaries, and has broken with WP:POINT by putting up afd tags on articles for the sole reason of revenge at other posters for putting up an afd tag on his article. I document this all in detail in my response to the RFC. From reading "Dispute Resolution" I understand that disputes should be first tried to be resolved between the parties involved directly, that had failed. From then on there are four options we could take of which an Rfc on the user was taken. This however seems to have failed because as of now this dispute is still active. So from here on we could try Mediation, however I feel that Mediation would not help in this dispute. I feel that the case against this particular user is so aggregious that it warrants either a long-term block or an outright ban and am strongly considering a Request for Arbitration. I would like to have some understanding of what I should do from here and also some further information on how the Arbitration process works. Thank you.--Jersey Devil 23:46, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki edit war

Over in Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki we have a one-against-many edit war going on. A single editor, who originally logged in as user:Parkinsons, but now comes in with varying IP addresses (most recently user:88.106.218.23 keeps adding an identical edit to the article. This edit is several paragraphs long and has its own top-level section heading. The edit has been discussed at great length in the Talk page, and everyone except Parkinsons himself agrees that it is irrelevant, makes no clear point and doesn't belong in the article. At least 7 different editors have either removed Parkinsons' edit at various times or have disagreed with its content in the Talk page. Parkinsons has argued in defense of his edit in the Talk page, but isn't able to do so clearly, much less convincingly. His defenses often consist of telling people who disagree with him that they are biased and are censoring historical fact. It's clear that there is a consensus against his edit, but he seems impervious to appeals to reason.

Parkinsons has vowed to replace this edit 3 times a day, regardless of how often or quickly it is removed. He's held good on this promise for 10 days now.

This person isn't breaking any WP guidelines that I know of. His edit (in its current form) isn't non-neutral, and it's well cited. It is simply irrelevant to the article and makes no point. I'm wondering what, if anything, can be done about this situation. KarlBunker 16:15, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you can prove any use of Sockpuppets to avoid possible misuse of the 3 revert rule you could have all users in question blocked on grounds of sockpuppetry and 3RR. Computerjoe's talk 17:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Clay Aiken dispute regarding the John Paulus story

I'm requesting an advocate to help with a situation I've run into on the Clay Aiken page. In my opinion I feel that a handful of his fans have hijacked the page in several instances; firstly they violently refused that any mention be made regarding his sexuality in the article and a compromise was reached only after extensive, extensive argument on their parts. I came into the "fray" when I tried to insert reference to the John Paulus allegations after seeing a report about it on CNN television. My efforts have been greeted by these reactionary fans and I had to request that the page be locked because any edit I attempted to make was immediately reverted. I feel that the majority of those against inclusion of a brief summary of the issue are against it solely because they feel protective of Clay Aiken's reputation and are trying to censor the story. The range of arguments they provide lack merit or substance and I feel that some of them have resorted to sock puppets in order to further their "majority" opinion. While I'm not the only person who feels that the Paulus story belongs on the page (the same as similar stories are on the articles for many other celebrities, many of whom lack even more basis than this one) I'm certainly the most vocal in favor and I wouldn't find the situation so frustrating if I had help. I want to point out my interest in this isn't because I feel the Paulus story is true (I could care less) or because I think Clay Aiken's gay (could also care less). Rather I feel that those who lurk on the article and have argued in both debates do so because they're trying to suppress information that, though extensively available and mentioned even in late night talk shows, they feel tarnishes their "idol." I personally won't stand idly while such a travesty of free speech is perpetrated. - mixvio 03:42, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll gladly help you, but please understand that the issue here isn't "free speech" (Free speech simply means government cannot punish you for the content of what you say) but rather Wikipedia's goal of including all relevant and verifiable information available on the subjects it covers. 13:02, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the help Kurt, I appreciate it. I apologise, when I said free speech I meant it in the sense that the issue is being crushed by fans of Clay Aiken's who are pushing a very stubborn POV goal to disregard the story because they feel like it tarnishes his image. Any attempt to insert this story has been destroyed by these fans and I feel that they've hijacked the article and are completely censoring it. I truly feel that there wouldn't be so much opposition to inclusion if Paulus had been a woman, frankly. The article is being controlled by POV fan editors and that's what I meant when I said free speech. But all the same, thank you for the help, we need it! :) - mixvio 20:22, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As a non-biased non-fan, I have to note that this characterization of Mixvio's crusade is a little skewed. · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 18:37, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WZTV, Nashville, Tenn. (television station)

A user has taken it upon himself to refuse my referral to a more reputable source concerning the year in which WZTV, a FOX television station in Nashville, Tenn., was started. He has complained that I have repeatedly changed his date of 1968, which I did because the date is not accurate (my source: www.nashvilletv.org); it is rather 1969. He espoused an arrogant attitude when I informed him that the operators of the site I recommended were more likely to have knowledge of the fact at first hand, dismissing my recommendations. I think he utterly disregards the warning not to submit work unless he wishes it "mercilessly edited;" that is, he wants complete control over this article, something noboby, myself included, has a right to demand. I suspect he is eligible to be banned in some way, but I would like to know if it is even feasible to pursue this. Mtstroud, 20:05, 6 March 2006, (UTC)

  • I don't understand the angle of disregard or disrespect. The site Mtstroud cites, nashvilletv.org, I have collaborated on in the past. Unfortunately, in this instance, there are other internet sources that suggest its date of 1969 is inaccurate. This one speaks of an employee of the station that appeared on-air as early as October 1968. There is also this site, which I first cited as a reference, which shows 8/5/68 as the sign-on. I'm sorry that the discussion on this article came to an AMA Request for assistance. If there was any disrespect toward Mtstroud, it was certainly not intended. --Zpb52 07:44, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There is discussion on my talk page. It appears that the issue may be resolved by discussion. Robert McClenon 13:02, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I now stand corrected. Please disregard my request above. I will make amends also to Zpb52 and will not make any more modifications to that page. Mtstroud, 12:09 CST, 7 March 2006

Continued Factual References, Concerningly Uncivil Behavior

I have a dispute with a user who continually asserts information that is either biased, unreferenced or factually untrue. He becomes extremely hostile when I raise these concerns. My attempts to engage in civil discussion have met with extremely resistance and blatant hostility (e.g. statements such as "stop bugging me", "this is my talk page and I do not reply if you vandalise it"). His behavior towards other Wikipedians is also concerning and rude. I indicated that I would direct our continued discussion to the AMA, but he does not want to engage in the mediation process, as he does not believe that a problem exists. Unfortunately, the mediation process is voluntary. I believe that his behavior warrants some kind of administrative review, but I am not completely intimate with the judicial processes of Wikipedia. Advice would be appreciated. Exaltare 15:35, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Politicisation of Death Article

A small group of users continues to list abortion as a cause of death in the Death article, though abortion is not considerered a statistical death outside of decidedly pro-life organisations. This is clearly an attempt to use a NPOV article as a political tool.

In the discussion pages I have patiently tried to explain that a list of statistics is reserved for factual statements only, to no avail. The Artist Formerly Known as BenFranklin 18:13, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How might an advocate help you? Pedant 04:49, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hopefully, this is the right place. A professor is using the Mass Media page as a class project, where basically, the entire class can throw whatever they wish into the article...here's an excerpt from a previous version of the page

The Roy C. Ketcham Media Writing class is creating the media history timeline below as a class project - we have used The Media History Project at http://www.mediahistory.umn.edu/index2.html as a starting point for our information. The entries below are made by individual students

I'm all for being bold...but the page is constantly filled with information that doesn't pertain to wikipedia standards, such as explanations as to why the typewriter

What is it you wish an advocate to do? You are entirely welcome to edit the page in question to correct any misinformation or remove unencyclopedic material... but if you need assistance, please let us know what it is you need. Pedant 05:11, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Homophobia on Wikipedia

I feel as though an article which I have contributed to, relating to GLBT issues has been flamed by certain members because of its gay/lesbian/bisexual content. I could do with a bit of help from an advocate who would be willing to help resolve this matter before it gets any worse; the majority of the article was there before I even edited it, and did contain one slightly objective statement which i chose not to edit- primarily because I didn't write it.

I have removed the offending comment, which seems to have been blamed on me but I would like someone to assess the situation, as I feel there is an underlying theme of homophobia regarding it. GYUK

--Ludo 19:52, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What article? Pedant


Is there an advocate with courage, given public boasts of being able to murder people

Is there an advocate with courage, willing to monitor and correct the ongoing criminal fraud by hired goons for President Bush's friend and contributor Patricia Cornwell? W. Guy Finley at first volunteered, but then wimped out, quite understandably because of Cornwell's public boasts that she can have people murdered, combined with court documents proving Cornwell has gotten away with felony crimes under US gov't protection. Finley asked some curious questions, then backed away with a silly suggestion to try and contact filmmaker Michael Moore for further assistance, declining to answer further e-mails.

The Cornwell hired goons are not only maintaining a totally fake and fraudulent pro-Cornwell biography on Wikipedia, but are also using the page for a fraudulent and deceptive attack on Cornwell's biographer Sachs. See the online "Patricia Cornwell Biography: Crime, Bribery, Scandal and Mental Illness", for the facts about Cornwell's life that Cornwell's thugs are hiding. Cornwell's scandals are well documented in print documents from the pre-internet era, though Cornwell's political contributions have insulated and protected her among the corporate media that now controls general discourse in the US. Alternative media are afraid to write about her criminal scandals, given Cornwell's past success in criminal attacks on others who dared to question her.

Wikipedia moderators have timidly and slightly corrected the fraudulent material in the past, but the Cornwell hired goons just wait a little and then put their bogus material back online.

The question here is whether Wikipedia is oriented toward wealthy criminals who can afford to hire staff maintaining fraudulent Wikipedia pages and attacks on others. Does a victim have no recourse other than in engaging in daily posting combat on Wikipedia? When wealthy criminals hire staff to make fraudulent attacks on Wikipedia, is the victim thereby sentenced to monitor Wikipedia every day for the rest of his life, just to protect himself?

Wikipedia seems to be a significant fraud and failure, oriented to benefit wealthy criminals. It's quite hard for a new victim, who is not oriented to playing the "Wikipedia game", to even figure out where to post complaints of abuse, as if the Lords of Wikipedia are trying to make it hard for victims. Victims find pages warning them not to post complaints here, or here, or warnings of other Wikipedia "rules", without clear directions where else to go. Wikipedia treats victims as if they have signed up for the Wikipedia game, when they perhaps just want to stop Wikipedia being used for criminal purposes against them.

What article? What is wrong with it? Member advocates don't ordinarily monitor articles, but if you tell us what problem you are having, with what article or editor or editors, one of us might be able to give you some advice on what you could do to solve the 'fraud' or whatever it is. Pedant

Need Help with dispute resolution

For the past month, me and another user have been going back and forth about the contents of an article, UGOPlayer, and it has resulted in an edit war. It has gone through individual attempts to agree, a deletion attempt, a 3rd opinion which was accepted by the party that did not ask for the 3rd opinion, but not by the one who did, and is presently filed for mediation over the content. I was wondering if there was anyone who would be willing to provide advice for me throughout the process of mediation, and be able to better put arguments into words for me? I apologize if this seems awkward or something. Sbloemeke 00:04, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Small Issue about Article writing

I have been enjoying wikipedia and began to notice stubs about past companies, and mildly famous friends of mine popping up. I had begun to mildly contribute to stubs and thought it would be nice to add an article for me. I am not Madonna, but I have done quite a bit of work in the design world. I wrote a small piece (unfinished) about some of my schooling a few collections I have done. My work for Betsey Johnson, Triple five Soul, Akademiks, PRPS, Candies, Kelly Clarkson, The Gorrillaz, Eric West, Koneko (my old band boy george likes) etc. and before I knew it (minutes) an administrator had erased the whole thing (after I noted it was unfinished). Thinking I just needed to link it to some of the other stubs I began to do that and reload it. But then I was told I would not be allowed to edit anymore for doing so. I find this hostile. It is one thing to just write "hi im rob and I have a big thumb", but I am a little known designer, and just thought it would be nice to share my info, especially being from Ohio.... I figure it might be neat for kids to see you CAN become something NOW and go somewhere. My impression of Wikipedia is the ability to offer randomn & valid information that would be hard to find otherwise. say the guy who picked the alligator for Lacoste, or the person who invented Aqua net. I understand that is could be considered tacky to write about oneself, and I could easily hire someone to do it......but I just thought it would be fine.

Anyhow I just found the reply to be hostile and rude, especially since I was writing a professional and responsible piece. I am not Madonna, but I assumed being linked to all these people and doing valid work makes it ok? ( I was not trying to do some myspace type profile) I have noted the forum for being listed and I do fall under.....

1. Multiple features in popular culture publications such as Vogue, GQ, Elle, FHM or national newspapers

Anyway Here was the conversation and reply:


"

Please stop recreating deleted articles or you will be blocked from editing. --W(t) 00:55, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


I have read the afforementioned article. I find being more well known than a professor to be a bit of a strange concept. I can't think of any famous professors offhand. But I sure can find other people mentioned on here that I have no knowledge of. I feel that this action is a bit hostile... especially after noting that the article is unfinished.

I have found the following:

1. Multiple features in popular culture publications such as Vogue, GQ, Elle, FHM or national newspapers

Which I have done. and as stated I planned to finish the article. ( My Work has been presented in VICE magazine, Elle girl, Teen Vogue, numerous publications of Fader, and Complex, etc. and I will be happy to show tears verifying this.) It is also published on billboards for akademiks, prps is worn by the gorillaz (a band) for their videos, and is currently being requested by Eric West, among other names. Is this not enough?

Also. I have styled Kelly Clarkson for Candies ads.

ALSO. I contributed work to the band Koneko, Who has a cd out (Yes I doubt it has sold 50,000 copies), BUT it is an interest of Theo of the Luna chicks, and Moby. And Boy George himself has expressed enthusiasm in the band. Is this not enough?

I have also noted. this article located under "autobiography"

2. "It is a social faux pas to write about yourself", according to Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia's founder. [1] You should wait for others to write an article about subjects in which you are personally involved. This applies to articles about you, your achievements, your business, your publications, your website, your relatives, and any other possible conflict of interest.

I can easily hire someone else to write it for me if that is all that is required. I know certain other "famed" people on here who have done so.

Finally, personally, I would be interested in knowing who chose to stick the Crocodile on a lacoste shirt. Who Chanel's right hand girl was. Or who invented Aqua Net. I thought the point of Wikipedia was valid & randomn information. Not having to be Madonna in order to plant a flag. I planned to finish my small piece in a professional manner, as I started.

If Wikipedia does not desire my profile that is fine. Thank you. Joshua S. Amos

ps. you CAN also google some of my work."


I guess I was just curious as to if I am way out of line for putting this up. Or If there is just hostility in the wikipedia environment. I just did not realize the amount of notoriety necessary to be in wikipedia? If I am out of line I apologize. Thanks, Josh xtruthlovex

Josh, Wikipedia has a rule about not including your original research, but you could reference other people's research for your article. It's not generally good form to write an article about yourself, but if you make an article that is encyclopedic, well researched and well referenced, it's possible to write about almost any subject. Try writing a few articles on other people first, to get the hang of it, and wait a while on the Joshua Amos article. Maybe someone else will start one in the meantime. Pedant 05:11, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]



Request for Assitance with Opie and Anthony page

I have been trying to edit out the rampant disinformation being spread about the radio hosts Opie and Anthony. The lack of attention to verifiable facts seems to mark all of these edits. I would appreciate any and all assistance in controlling this obvious smear campaign against the popular satellite radio broadcasters. Please reference XM Satellite Radio history vs Sirius Satellite Radio history to see the difference in Wiki Encyclopedic Article vs Advertisement. Also reference Howard Stern article vs Opie and Anthony article. You will immediately see the difference, it is astounding the amount of advertising and POV that is going on in these entries. (Countzer 04:58, 10 February 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Request for Assitance with Persians page

We need an advocate to help/represent our case on Persian people and Mediation/Persians. The details of the case have been fully explained on Mediation/Persians and Talk:Persian_people. --ManiF 23:23, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help Needed to Ban a User Aucaman

Dear admin, User:Aucaman chronically participates in repeatedly violating the 3rr policy, placing numerous dispute tags on articles, [unstoppable] possible sneaky vandalism, repeated violation of the personal attack policy by referring to multiple users as `racist` and other, going against the over-whelming consensus, refusing to compromise, and single-handedly hijacking this and two more articles. He has been engaged in a systematic campaign of misinformation, maliciously editing/disputing Persian people, pushing his POV, ignoring the majority consensus and authoritative sources, trying to establish new 'facts" based on his own personal assumptions, political beliefs, and racist comments. [16] He also repeatedly engages in racially-motivated personal attacks and possibly vandalizes the Persian people article which has resulted in the protection of page. Seemingly, he has single-handedly disrupted the integrity of the page in question, and perhaps other articles too. Furthermore, he is a chronic 3RR violator, but also violates other wikipedia rules by vandalizing and then removing warnings from his talk-page. [17] Would you please take a look at this issue and help us clean up the Persian people page? Please take a look at ( Talk:Persian people & Mediation/Persian_people ). ThanksZmmz 05:05, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If he violates the WP:3RR policy, report him on WP:AN/3RR. WP:AN is generally a very useful place for such conduct. With regards to him removing notices, revert it and warn the user not to do it. I permenant ban isn't possible at this time- the user has not even been had a temporary ban once, and I do not see excessive amounts of warnings on the user talk page.
If the user violates a policy, warn them against it. Keep doing that and everything will be OK. Contact me if you need any help with any of the above. His Imposingness, the Grand Moff Deskana (talk) 20:04, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Peter F. Paul article and the sock puppets

I have gotten into a morass with a user who goes by the name User: Franklyn2 or sock puppet accounts, including User: 24.196.167.104. I have tried to be fair and have devoted a huge amount of time to finding old newspaper and magazine articles as sources for the wikipedia page, as well as viewing multiple home movies that Franklyn2 has posted to the web, supposedly backing his views.

He has taken this badly, accuses me of being part of a conspiracy run by Bill Clinton, calls me some very nasty names on the discussion page, and massacres the text of the page with editorialization and, in some cases, fabrications (not to mention bad spelling).

Help? Uucp 22:04, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This a very controversial thesis and the article is extremely NPOV supporting this radical thesis except the first paragraph. The idea that the Lost Tribes of Israel even exist is controversial in itself!

This page is not edited often and so I don't think anybody will defend it. I have put a controverisal template and a POV-check template on the page but I'm not sure what to do next, especially if nobody defends the article.

Thank you in advance for your assistance! Karmak

Help with an IP editor

I've been trying to reason with an IP editor. I keep explaining to him/her that claims made in Wikipedia articles needs to be verified, and in response s/he accuses me of not getting "the facts straight." Could someone please explain to this user that if s/he just sources her edits, this whole problem will go away? Thanks! --M@rēino 17:02, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism in the midst of a discussion

Seriously, how are we supposed to DISCUSS on Talk-Pages, when my very arguments there are being vandalised. Still, some still dispute my arguments for being "false quotes", but when I back them up with FULL REFERENCES, my edit is repeatedly reverted. (Again, on the TALK-PAGE, the very place where we are supposed to discuss that). I'm waiting for an approval to revert again to my edits. Hope you'll provide me one. Here is a link to the questionable revert [18]. Thank you in advance. Zadil 00:47, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism and deletion of User comments

Hello there. I have been in the midst of a troubled discussion with User:203.111.75.195 who seems to have a history of deleting other User's comments, he has even deleted comments on his talk page where other user's have asked him to stop deleting user comments, see history of his discussion page here [19]. Could someone please help me. I have made every attempt to have a scholarly discussion with the individual on the Marco Polo discussion page. The topic of discussion is here [20]. The User 203.111.75.195 is deleting all my discussion points over and over again. It is impossible to discuss this manner in a civilised way with the person. Can someone help me in reinstating my comments as they were. I put a lot of effort into typing and researching as you can see if you check the history on the discussion of the link here [21]. Please help. Many thanks, Euganeo 00:52, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Global Warming" (GW) article problems

The following is an edited version of my previous request, because I understand better now how this forum works...A "cabal" of editors is not allowing the article on global warming, and to a lessor extent, related articles such as global warming controversy, to be made more neutral in spite of repeated and very reasonable efforts by other editors. The group that is blocking these efforts appears to be advocates of the theory of human-induced global warming. The editors who believe the current articles are unnecessarily biased appear to be on both sides of the issue. In spite of community dicussion, any edits to the main articles or placement of the "POV" tag are usually immediately deleted. Furthermore, the censoring editors often respond to the discussions with pejorative, personal, emotional, or other types of inappropriate comments (for example, see James S' response below). One of the primary offendors, in my and at least one other editor's opionion (see global warming discussion page) is a Wikipedea administrator named William Connelly.

Specific request: Please review the discussion pages and edit histories for global warming, global warming controversy, State of Fear, and Michael Crichton, and any other related pages to see if my objection has merit. If you believe that it does, please ask William Connelly and the other censors to allow the community of editors to make the article more neutral in line with Wikipedia policy and standards. If this fails, request that the administrator in question and the other complicit editors receive appropriate sanctions. Thank you. Cla68 16:20, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a specific action: Cla68 needs to contemplate the meaning of this curve fit and its 2253 A.D. inflection point. --James S. 14:04, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Update: It appears that some of the active participants in the GW article debate have backed-off somewhat and allowed the article to be made more neutral. If it stays that way, then the problem should hopefully be resolved. Cla68 15:19, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Irish censors

There are several censors/revisionists on Wikipedia who are determined to delete or gut anythign they personally do not agree with or like. One of these is an editor named Demiurge whose relentless attempts at censorship, blocked only when he is caught red-handed by third party Wikipedians, continues unabated. Please review his attempts to delete my additions to the Tim Pat Coogan wikipage. Evidently he is not the only one.

Demiurge is an Irish censor and a Catholic apologist who has attempted to delete edits to pages as various as Ante Pavelic, Tim Pat Coogan, pre-Code (related, ironically, to movie censorship in the USA by the Catholic church), Eamon de Valera (refugee policy during WWII), and many others. Is this individual going to be permitted to censor, delete, edit, sanitize, gut, or whatever he cares to do, with no one stopping him???

This is a very black harbinger for Wikipedia, and its helplessness to block abusive editors, and certainly administrators (which Demiurge is not yet, fortunately, but he will certainly attempt to become one). 70.19.67.28 22:23, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request for an Advocate

The user Gunsword has repeatedly removed information from the article Buu because he disagrees with it, rather than because it is incorrect, or there is some other problem with it. He doesn't give any reason for his edits, other than saying that the technique names referred to "doesn't exist" (a false belief of his), and refuses to engage in discussion over the issue. I tried to inform him on his talk page as to why he should stop removing the information, and he made the edits again anyway. I would appreciate it if someone could please speak with him, or warn him, or SOMETHING, because I don't have the time to revert his vandalism all day.

Thank you.

Daishokaioshin 04:55, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I will speak to him and monitor him Mahogany

A Request for an Advocate

In the Falun Gong article, a user blanked an entire section without warning. As defined on the Wikipedia vandalism page, blanking a section in that manner without explanation is vandalism. I restored the section, and the user in question continued removing it, albeit with an ex post facto explanation. Restoring vandalism is not a violation of the Three-revert rule.

I tried to move the discussion about retention of the section onto the talk page; however, before that could be resolved, I was blocked by Samuel Blanning who clearly had not investigated the matter before doing so. Mr. Blanning seems to have his own personal rules for deciding whether something is vandalism -- as can be seen in his comments on my user page -- notwithstanding his personal rules directly contradict with written Wikipedia rules. The Falun Gong article is in the midst of a great deal of partisan back-and-forth, and I was only trying to prevent some of the incessant vandalism and blanking which has gone on there. (I, personally, have no interest in the topic and knew nothing about the organization until the incident at the White House the other day.)

I think Mr. Blanning has overstepped his authority -- rather than resolving the matter, which could have been done so simply by leaving a comment on my page, he chose the more showy and self-inflating route of blocking me. Additionally, he posted a pejorative comment about me on my user talk page. Quite simply, I think Mr. Blanning has let a little bit of authority go to his head, and I believe he should be cautioned to be more circumspect and work towards a resolution in the future.

I was merely trying to follow the rules to prevent vandalism and, in my opinion, Mr. Blanning needlessly assumed the role of the martinet while violating the rules in the process. Thank you.Jeff Fenstermacher 01:20, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll check it out Mahogany
I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to ask someone else to step into your place. Without any input from me, you immediately sided with the other party. You're not being neutral or objective about this matter, and it would be inappropriate for you to continue. You also should date and timestamp your contributions with four tildas.Jeff Fenstermacher 05:49, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request for assistance: Wrongful deletion of images

I have evidence that User:Nv8200p wrongfully deleted two of the images I uploaded. He refuses to accept responsibility for doing so. I have invited him to mediate and he has not responded as of yet. --Fahrenheit451 04:57, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I will Try to help you Aeon 20:33, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fahrenhiet451 has withdrawn his request. Aeon 23:41, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request for help, category duplication

This involves Category:American people by ethnic or national origin. User User:Mayumashu has effectively reverted my work in organizing this category into sub-categories, which I believe makes it easier to find things. I have discussed this on his talk page, but he is convinced of his theory (the use of which I have not seen in other categories) that the 'American people by ethnic or national origin' category is best organized by directly including in it both the major subcategories (European Americans, Asian Americans, etc) and all the subcategories within those major sub-categories. His personal theories as to why this is best do not seem sound to me. I do not think this is a good result and I do not think that this duplication adheres to Wiki guidelines on categories and sub-categories.

The solution I seek is that all this work by Mayumashu be reverted back to before he started this. Thanks Hmains 03:52, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Musical Linguist

Musical Linguist and other censors are deleting sourced/cited information from the Pope Benedict XVI-related wikipages regarding his service in the German Army during World War II. As Musical Linguist's homepage is clearly dedicated to Catholic apologetics, one has to ask if she (and others) are qualified to be Wikipedia administrators.

216.194.57.160 16:26, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note that this is almost certainly indefintely-blocked Rms125a@hotmail.com (Category:Wikipedia:Suspected sockpuppets of Rms125a@hotmail.com and Category:Wikipedia:Sock puppets of Rms125a@hotmail.com. --Syrthiss 16:59, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A Request for an Advocate

Dear Sir

The article http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samnito in Portuguese language site, is by deleted for other person, I need save a page, before this happen. And I need too, an advocate in case this cause going in a court in USA. Can I please get assistance on this matter?

Thanks. --Eduardo Corrêa 11:59, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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