User talk:JzG/Archive 8: Difference between revisions

RFA Thanks

Thank you!
Thank you for your support in my recent RFA. It passed 53/1/2 and I am now an administrator. I appreciate that some of you made exceptions to your usual requirements re length of service and so on because we've interracted positively in the past, or because of my credentials, so I will endeavour to use my new mop cautiously. I'm always open to feedback and gently constructive criticism. If you're not an admin and need some assistance do of course please let me know. Thanks again --kingboyk 00:23, 6 March 2006 (UTC) [reply]

P.S. If you are interested in The Beatles, User:Lar has asked me to tag on a little note advertising the creation of a new Beatles WikiProject that we are currently setting up. Please sign up and help.

Sam Sloan

He's my Jason Gastrich, except that I'm not being condemned to hell for my actions. :) howch e ng {chat} 07:10, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

zap!

I've replied to your note, on my talk page, and am now totally negating the efficiency of that by telling you this here ; )

— User:Adrian/zap2.js 15:46, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Reconciliation

Hi Guy,

I hope you're well.

I'm writing a couple of Wiki users because I feel that I may have offended some people. I apologize if my past contributions made you upset. I see that you value making contributions to Wikipedia (although I don't agree with them) and that you have a passion for this place and getting your input into various entries.

The recent explosion in revert wars by "apparent Jason Gastrich sock puppets or impersonators" has not been my doing. Although I disagree with your viewpoint that a link to one of my web pages or a link that I agree with should be discussed on the talk page first, in fact I find this downright unfair and wrong, I haven't been contributing under the huge number of impersonators we have seen, lately.

Please consider reconciling with me. It could do us some good. I wish had something tangible to offer you, but I don't. All I can do is apologize for the past edits that were deemed inappropriate by you, although I still strongly disagree, and forgive you for the misdeeds I feel you have done. For what it's worth, I see this place as hostile to what I believe in, and even the truth in general, causing me to have serious reservations about even inviting others here and certainly about promoting this place in any way.

My most important goal is to glorify God and to lead others into a relationship with Him. I've been working hard and doing this online, although some may not see these efforts reflected on Wikipedia. Therefore, I need to go where I'm needed the most, because that is where the fruit is at.

Thanks for your consideration and God bless you.

Sincerely, Jason Gastrich 01:27, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Please don't be offended that I'm sending a similar message to a handful of others. I feel the same way and wanted to say the same thing to them, too.

After the "apology" he had enough time to fix the promotion links on his page[1]. Arbusto 02:05, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Only the one I think. Just zis Guy you know? 09:49, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is fascinating. I can't help but notice that Gastrich's reply came only after a fair number of arbitrators already voted against him in the proposed decision. Unfortunately, I don't think it works the way he thinks it does ... once people have made up their mind, they've made up their mind, and late apologies really aren't going to help anything. --Cyde Weys 02:09, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I think it was in the middle of the apology pasting.

BTW, Guy, here is a request that you archive your talk page, you're over 100 messages. KillerChihuahua^?!? 02:14, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Be bold :-) Cyde Weys 02:43, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

roflmao, Cyde, you are a bad, bad boy! KillerChihuahua^?!? 02:44, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I'm a lone voice, but I don't see anything wrong with his user page*, and I'm happy to see him editing under his accepted user name. *It might be better if the bio with links were moved to a subpage as is the norm for userfied articles, however. --kingboyk 02:59, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to see him edit? You mean till ArbComm finalises things? Color me jealous I didn't get one of these (collectible, trade and save!). ++Lar: t/c 03:02, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

...as opposed to the latest sockpuppet. It's good to know he hasn't forgotten his password! --kingboyk 03:06, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have to take this page off my watch list, if I keep laughing like this I'll hurt myself. KillerChihuahua^?!? 03:11, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I use the SAME password for ALL my sockpuppets. Hope that helps. ++Lar: t/c 03:30, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In response to the several above:

I am actually very pleased that Jason has chosen to acknowledge fault, that is a positive development. My view is that the original ArbCom remedy of editing restrictions and rapid escaaltion in case of future repetition was adequate and proportionate; I am convinced that a lot of the disruption was not Jason himself; even if it was meatpuppets, that may be a case of having let the genie out of the bottle - hard to get it back in.
KingboyK, go back in the history and loko at prior versions. They had way too many external links. They have been pruned, and Jason has apparently decided to leave that be, which is good.
I think we should stop poking fun.

As you know, I never did want Jason blocked, only brought into line. Just zis Guy you know? 09:49, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with all points, and I was serious in saying that I considered it a welcome development. --kingboyk 10:08, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Gastrich has a way with words. ~~While I don't necessarily think that his apology is insincere~~, neither does it particularly interest me. An actual change of behaviour is the only thing that will be of any importance; doing a few spelling corrections on articles unrelated to Christianity would have said far more than the appeal above. I'm still not convinced by either the impersonator or the meatpuppet defence - the socks are too knowledgable about Wikipedia to be new users, his ministry is almost certainly not that large, and there is no conceivable reason for anyone to impersonate him to this extent - maybe one or two people playing silly buggers, like Mrs Gastrich, but the majority of the spree makes no sense in that context. I can't remember offhand who it was that suggested applying Occam's Razor, but I think they were right. To refer to Arbustoo's post, the fact that his first real step on the road to reconciliation is to insert another spam link on his user page is not encouraging. --Sam Blanning (formerly Malthusian) (talk) 10:52, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I concur with Malthusian. KillerChihuahua^?!? 10:58, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion on Arbustoo's talk page which was started by Gastrich after his supposed 'apology' makes me even less inclined to consider this a genuine attempt at reconciliation, hence the strikeout in the paragraph above. --Sam Blanning (formerly Malthusian) (talk) 15:29, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh FFS. I try so hard to WP:AGF, but this guy really works at it, doesn't he? Just zis Guy you know? 15:44, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jason's apology does not appear to be sincere. If you look for the subtext, he is basically saying: "I'm apologizing because it's the only thing I can do in the face of your injustices towards me." Although I am entirely surprised that Wikipedia has held his attention for this long, I do not doubt that he will continue to push his point of view into the knowledge base. Even though this is my first posting here, I have been a "fan" of Jason's for a couple of years, and have been closely watching this latest round of antics. Generally I find his silliness to be harmless fun, but it's an entirely different matter when his righteous arrogance steamrollers other people's sincere efforts. Grinder2112 18:44, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Background, I have seen some of the discussions that Grinder has had with Jason. He has a high degree of patience and is one of the few who has managed to engage Jason in a productive discourse. Grinder is no troll, in case people are wondering due to his limitied activity in wikipedia. David D. (Talk) 19:36, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I have a Bible verse for those gathered here today. It's Matthew 7:6. Regardless of who your swine are. AvB ÷ talk 21:47, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have a sneaking suspicion the pearls here are fake, but the authenticity of the swine is in little doubt at this moment. Just zis Guy you know? 22:17, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

Hey JzG, FYI [2] [3] regards, FloNight ^talk 16:29, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alien Abduction RE.:

I was referring to one Whitley Strieber. I've encountered things myself that would scare Stephen King, Clive Barker and Wes Craven when I was a kid, and on top of that, had to contend with trigger happy idiots at the same time the former was going on. While travelling "Out West" as a gold prospector, people had told me that IF there is alien contact, the whole planet will erupt in rebellions, some for religious reasons, such as "Its the Devil comming to get our souls and the Govt. works for Satan !", some will rebel out of revenge due to the protocol initiated by the Robertson Panel protocol and/or the Brookings Report, both of which are still in effect. Part of the Robertson Panel protocol uses psychiatrists, so that people who spot UFOs and/or aliens, and the like, have a interest in these "forbidden" matters look like fools and idiots. The Robertson Panel was initiated by the CIA to "reduce", if not eliminate any and all interest, suppress any and all UFO and/or alien reports.I have some police and military contacts as well who have told me a few things. Martial Law :)

Is that a grassy knoll I see over yonder? Just zis Guy you know? 20:25, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good one, Ever hear about the "Magic Bullet" that hit JFK in the head(Seen the tapes) from the front, then circled around and hit the Texas governor ? While investigating a bigfoot incident, some idiot threatened to shoot me IF I was one of those (polite) "skeptics". People see strange things, they do not appreciate other people implying they're lying. Due to WP:NOR and Wikipedia:Profanity, I can't state what I've found here. Martial Law 23:47, 8 March 2006 (UTC) :)[reply]

Have you seen/encountered something strange ? Did you report it ? If you did, you'll see what I'm referring to. I've investigated the Roswell Incident, the Phoenix Lights matter, the Fouke Monster matter(where some armed idiot thought I was a "skeptic"), the Gulf Breeze UFO incident, and some not so famous paranormal matters as well. Wikipedia Protocol does not allow me to list here what I've found at all. Martial Law 23:55, 8 March 2006 (UTC) :)[reply]

The thing that has always amazed me about the Roswell Conspiracy is that the Government have supposedly somehow managed to keep it completely leak-free, something they have failed to do in so many other cases (from Watergate on up). I apply Occam's Razor: when absolutely everybody in authority points to a prosaic explanation, why theorise something for which no credible evidence exists? Of course, Douglas Adams had another take on it: teasers, rich kids with nothign better to do than land in some uninhabited spot and strut up and down in fonrt of some poor sod who nobody is going to believe making "beep-beep" noises and wearing silly antennae on their heads. Just zis Guy you know? 14:21, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where I'm currently located at, you dress up as a alien, Bigfoot, and come to a rural area, you might as well make out your Will. Out here, people will shoot at something like that, and at all intruders. I'm in a rural area at this time. While I was monitoring a Bigfoot incident in the Ozarks in Arkansas, a news person asked a local about it being someone in a Bigfoot suit. He (polite) said that had better not be going on or the (polite) idiot will end up dead. You'll be amazed when hoaxers report that some "redneck" tried to shoot at them, and the hoaxer is in some kind of costume, be it alien or bigfoot. Martial Law 02:26, 11 March 2006 (UTC) :)[reply]

Wiki-Links

If you are referring to my collection of Wiki-links, they allow instant access to various Wiki protocol, incl. WP:NOT. Martial Law 20:16, 7 March 2006 (UTC) :)[reply]

Thanks for the messages

Hey, just wanted to say thanks for the messages you left on my talk page. The amount of reaction my little post created astounded me. I actually think it's poorly written (it was two am and I had taken NyQuil for a cold earlier that evening), but thanks again for what you sent. I'm putting the tutorial info to good use, and I'm gonna start out as a real live contributor as soon as I figure out the ropes.

I also think its funny that, just because I mentioned I'm Christian, and that I wrote a mild rebuke to Jason Gastrich that was actually polite, people think I'm one of his sock puppets. Right now, I find it funny, but I hope it stops soon. It seems like the kind of thing that could get real annoying REAL fast.

Anyway, I'll stop my ranting now; thanks again!

Commander Cool, part deux 04:16, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Should the RfC talk page get deleted?

I was wondering if the talk page on the failed RfC that a Gastrich sock started should be deleted? Arbusto 05:29, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Some Articles

Can you help with Dhimmi , Jizya , Rules of war in Islam , People of the Book , & now Kafir. Its one user with a severe anti-Islamic POV , who is insistent on pushing his POV . F.a.y.^{تبادله خيال} ^{^/c} 13:14, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Who's the problem? There are a lot of strong opinons in evidence on those pages. Just zis Guy you know? 13:20, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:The Million Dollar Homepage

The problem was that in the list you left there were 2 articles present that had been consistently added by the same vandal, namely numbers 12 and 15. These had been consistently readded so I took the action of removing the whole list to try to make it less likely for people to put their own knock-off sites on there. Just felt that my actions needed explaining, my problem wasn't with the list per se, so much as what it invited people to do and what they did to it. Mallocks 15:49, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just think it's hilarious that they were adding their sites to a list demonstrating the futility of the knock-offs on the Talk page of an article; I guess nobody expects a spamming copycat to be especially bright :-) Just zis Guy you know? 15:57, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is somewhat mystifying what they expected to achieve, they got my visit to the page to see if it was linkspam, but other than that I shouldn't think they've had a single hit. Mystifying. Mallocks 16:01, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rouge admins

Our of curiosity, why Rouge not Rogue? KillerChihuahua^?!? 19:00, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

From some past comments - as a mis-spellign it amuses me :-) See some examples Just zis Guy you know? 19:10, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A little help needed....

I just finished my first contribution (found here), but the title is not what I wanted (It should be Todd Michael Schwartzman, with all names capitalized, not Todd michael schwartzman, as it currently is). How would I fix this? Thanks for your help.

--Commander Cool, part deux 20:26, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, I feel stupid. I went back to the page and immediately noticed the whole "Move" button. Huh. Well, at least I get the sweet satisfaction of having figured it out by myself, if only to accompany the bitter disappointment in my personal powers of observation.

Thanks anyway,

--Commander Cool, part deux 20:37, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, it's common enough - there is even a Wiki folklore around it, Geogre's Law :-) Just zis Guy you know? 22:39, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Spiked

On what do you base that a "self-published book" is somehow inferior or that I am the writer? Thanks for the compliment by the way. There are many of us in our reading group who enjoyed reading this book. You cite no credible rationale for deletion. To the excellent point made by Xoloz re. the notion of a self-published book like Spiked being popularly Googled. Beck's readers seem to endorse the book if their comments at various on-line booksellers are to be believed. American Library Association interview appears to us more impartial source than much consumer media publicity generated by commercial interest groups. See if a careful consideration of the evidence suggests not just withdrawing your notion of deletion but supporting Spiked as an entry. Malundi 8 March 2006

Who said you were the writer? It's a self-published book, though. I checked the publication details. And that alone is credible rationale for deletion. Just zis Guy you know? 00:06, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bible Colleges

New white washing at Oxford Graduate school[4] (no relation to the UK school). It seems the person doesn't want it to be known that the school is unaccredited and has 100 students via the US mail service. Making this drama more interesting is this[5]. Arbusto 01:31, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

This user thinks it is ironic that thanks for supporting Cyde's successful RFA came in the form of a userbox.

Here's a userbox for you. --Cyde Weys 04:13, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New Wiki

Hello JzG. I was wondering if you would in interested in a new wiki I'm working on about depression. I see you mention depression on your user page, so you might like to know about the Depression Wikicity. It's part of Wikicities, a project of Jimbo and Angela, but quite a new part so there is a lot to do! I'm hoping it will be come a real resource for people with depression. If you are interested, please come along and see if you can add to the site, it would be great to see more names there. Thanks -- sannse (talk) 11:31, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, I'll be along. Just zis Guy you know? 12:36, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And I'll bring my Dosulepin hydrochloride with me :-) Just zis Guy you know? 13:22, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not for school

I'm not sure where to express this on the talk page — I'll work it in later — but removing the {{Wikipedia subcat guideline}} from the page eliminates the air of official policy, and cuts the ferocity of my opposition dramatically. Thanks. ×Meegs 23:59, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think it belongs as it was started, as a gentle and mildly humorous way of pointing out that, well, Wikipedia is really not for things made up in school one day. The edits after UncleG's last seemed to em to be trying to turn it into WP:NOTABILITY, which we already ave, and subverting its intention of addressing a certain clearly identified class of bad article ideas. Just zis Guy you know? 12:33, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question: Deleted Edits

Just wondering if you knew what exactly counts as a deleted edit? It is editing a page then having the page deleted, or having a edit reveted? Mike _{(T C)} 02:43, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A deleted edit is where you delete the page and then restore it minus the disputed version. This does not, as far as I know, allow the deleted edit to be picked out of either the edit history or the deleted history. Just zis Guy you know? 08:31, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm so I have 88 deleted edits? Would this be because of newpage patrol and CSDing articles?? Mike _{(T C)}

07:22, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Most likely, yes. Where did you get 88 from? Just zis Guy you know? 08:40, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The edit count tool: Deleted edits 87, you have Deleted edits 453. I just thought it was high, after seeing yours it is defently not! Thanks! Mike _{(T C)}

19:37, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Notability

Hi! You mentioned in another discussion that you didn't think FORscene was notable. As it does meet the current notability guidelines, please can you let me know what else you would be looking for. Stephen B Streater 11:55, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My personal notabiltiy threshold is above community norm. Like I said, feel free to create the article, if you do it may be nominated for AfD - which is no big deal because if it does meet the guidelines it won't get deleted. Just zis Guy you know? 12:31, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comment. You can see what happened last time in the AfD. You can see the article for yourself, as you are an admin. People didn't like me writing the article, because I wrote some of the software (VSCA) - you are not the only one with higher standards than the guidelines! If you have time, I would appreciate some criticism of the article itself though. Stephen B Streater 13:39, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on the article's Talk page.

Trying to end the war before it starts

I would like to register my disappointment at your last edit to the Association of British Counties;

Owain may agree with their agenda, but the material included was referenced and sourced at the end (and not all from the ABC website either); unless you can refute them, they have right to stand.
the references given at the bottom were useful for the entire article. Even if you did not agree with the edits made to the body, you should have let these stand, or incorporated them otherwise. Please check and be able to justify each individual sub-edit you revert.
wholesale reverts on controversial topics should be preceded by discussion on the talk page. In your capacity as admin, you try to discourage edit wars - the best way to do this is by example. I'm doing my best to get mediators involved/get discussion going/..etc, and offical support would be incredibly welcome.

Overall, a partial edit of Owain's work was needed, but that is not what was given. Please could I ask you to go back and reconsider and re-edit as appropriate?

Also in your capacity as admin: the anonymous user editing this page is a sockpuppet of the banned User:Irate=User:IanDavies=... (earlier edits from similar ip's from Bulldog, Manchester were blocked as such by User:David Gerard). As you are taking an active interest in this particular article, please could you watch out for these sockpuppets and use temporary bans as appropriate? It makes more sense than trying to get otherwise unrelated admins involved every time via the admin incidents noticeboard.

This is a small and fairly insignificant issue in British politics, but it is an issue all the same. I'm trying to edit usefully, within the editing rules and with rigorous citation and justification; I just don't want to see the good work getting drowned out in avoidable edit battles.

Many thanks, Aquilina 16:57, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I read the content, and it seemsd to me that Owain had replaced a number of statements which were fair comment with some uncritical admiration for ABC, an organisation whose significance I am still unable to verify from any reliable sources (there has been, as far as I can tell, no significant coverage in the British national press, for example). It was that simple. The significance of the issue is not the same as the significance of the group, this much should be obvious.

I am still waiting for some details on what my agenda is supposed to be here. Given that Owain has an interest in Monmouthshire (form his contribs list) it seems highly likely that the two hits on the BBC for ABC, [6] and [7], both feedback comments, both pushing ABC, calling the archaic counties "the real counties" and so on, may be more revealing of Owain's bias than mine. Meanwhile there is still no verifiable evidence of significance, no evidence of coverage in mainstream media, and two BBC stories specifically did not mention the group, it was Owain Vaughan who did that in the feedback. Some might think that significant. Just zis Guy you know? 18:51, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Owain actually removed very little material - most of his edit was in addition to the standing article. You have added a significant amount of WP:OR to the article, which I will challenge you to find sources for. As you have not replaced the links to sources, but not justified your deletion of them, I shall do so myself now.

You may disagree with Owain's POV, and there isn't an abundance of evidence - but in the few cases where he can back up his POV with citation, his edits should stand.

Most of my comments about your edit still stand, whatever the group's significance Aquilina 18:55, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Like I said, I read both versions. It is not OR to mention that they were namechecked by one MP (it's in Hansard), that their membership is unstated (check the website), that the counties movement exists (see County Watch), that their impact is unknown absent media reports (give me the media reports, Owain hasn't managed yet), that the movement will not achieve its aims in the present climate (no party has it in their manifesto, not even the more quixotic ones like Goldsmith's mob). All this is verifiable. Unlike any claim to notability of ABC, which scores not significantly better on Google than I do. Just zis Guy you know? 19:01, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is a difference between not stating something on a website, and not stating - you have not proved it isn't available elsewhere, and I've changed the article to reflect this.

I have challenged several points of fact - if we can get inline references for these, then the article will be much more difficult for anyone to challenge. It's a slightly more rigorous standard of proof than is set for most articles, but seeing as its contentious it is necessary.

But as regards

The traditional counties movement is generally recognised as having little chance of achieving its objective in the current British political climate.^{[citation needed]}

- it's a statement I fully agree with, but I also know it's POV/OR. I was going to delete it out of hand but realised the following: if it's that generally held a belief, however, there'll be no problem finding evidence to back it up...

We are not arguing about notability here (that if anything was partially settled by the AfD...) I just want both sides backing upclaims with evidence - and on the rare occasion this happens, but gets deleted, some good reasons why. Aquilina 19:14, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

First and foremost, there is absolutely no credible evidence that this organisation is in any way significant and if we don't say that in some form then the article will be seriously biased. As to the fact of their having little chance, it is not POV, it's a fact. We can re-state it as "no political party has taken it up" or whatever, it remains vital context. How else will non-British readers know that this is never going to happen? NPOV absolutely requires that the article make it clear that this is a fringe view with little or no mainstream support. I am open to any decent suggestions as to how best to state that, of course. Just zis Guy you know? 21:37, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please be polite

Your comments on Talk:Simon Wessely are not up to the standards I like to see on Wikipedia. Remember, we are Wikipedians. We do not engage in fights with outside groups. We just write the articles. If anyone behaves inappropriately towards us, we should respond with graciousness and kindness even under extreme provocation. :) --Jimbo Wales 22:36, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, well, they published my personal data on their website, spammed me and all but called me the Antichrist, it got under my skin a bit. Just zis Guy you know? 22:40, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Wales, I find your comment to be somewhat patronizing here. First of all, we as Wikipedians do much, much more than "just write the articles", and you of all people should know this. Secondly, you failed to point out precisely which comments were "not up to the standards I like to see on Wikipedia". If you can't be more specific, how do you expect this person as a contributor to improve? His reactions were well within the realm of reason if you ask me. Silensor 22:55, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jimbo's right, I was tetchy. But actually I was just admitting to a POV, which is allowed, it didn't occur to em that it was wrong to describe what they did as being offensive. One Click are not nice, even after you've made allowances for them being ill. Just zis Guy you know? 23:02, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nourhaghighi

Would you please take a look at Nourhaghighi and related AFD? There surely has to be a speedy deletion criteria which covers this but I'm not sure what. If there isn't there should be! :) --kingboyk 23:14, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Man, that surely needed to be gone. I left some comments, hopefullly the author will read them. Just zis Guy you know? 23:28, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AfD/List of ...For Dummies books

Hi, JzG. You voted to support my AfD nomination of List of O'Reilly books. There is a similar, and much more contested nomination for AfD/List of ...For Dummies books. Would you be willing to vote for deletion there as well, to help turn the tide? Much apprecitated, Rynne 23:31, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can't claim to be a fan of solicitations to participate in AfDs, but that list does really' suck! Just zis Guy you know? 00:02, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia policy on the use of the title "Dr."

How do we create a policy that wikipedia abides by the academic standard usage of the title "Dr" so users can reference this during controversy/editting wars? So users know that honorary doctorates and unaccredited doctorates do not get to use the title "Dr." Arbusto 00:33, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It would need to go int he manual of style, I think. Just zis Guy you know? 08:41, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request for your opinion

Guy, I have noticed your work on AfD before and would like your opinion on Workplace networking. At first glance it might seem to be a legitimate article, but I believe a thorough reading shows that it is some kind of elaborate joke. I haven't done the AfD myself, but I would like your opinon on the article. Thanks. --Hetar 04:43, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's a thinly disguised attack page. Now cleaned up. Just zis Guy you know? 09:05, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request for advice

I've initiated a user conduct RfC (my first and, I hope, last). You had some contact with User:Dzonatas at WP:3RR. What's the proper procedure for notifying other editors that an RfC has started? I've posted this as a query to the RfC talk page and another administrator's talk page and received no guidance. The RfC needs certification from at least one other user in 48 hours. I don't want to be accused of canvassing for opposition to him (if that's a bad thing) or of failing to notify appropriate people (if I'm supposed to do that). Please advise. Durova 17:51, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You need to leave a note on the Talk page of the affected user, and I would normally think it appropriate to bring it to the attention of any other editors who are named in the RfC as part of the dispute (on either side). It is also reasonable to note it on the Talk page of any articles which are focal points of the dispute. You will also see that some people may come along and endorse the complaint because they watch the RfC page. Stick to the facts, link diffs wherever possible, be fair at all times and acknowledge your own faults if such their be. State up front any biases you may have. RfCs can get very heated, do not be drawn into slanging matches.

On closer inspection, much of the meat of the fC seems to be founded on the assumption that Dzonatas and Jhballard are one and the same. I don't think that is necessarily proven (unless I've missed some evidence somewhere) so I have requested a CheckUser. Just zis Guy you know? 19:20, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::Hmm so I have 88 deleted edits? Would this be because of newpage patrol and CSDing articles?? [[User:Onthost|Mike]] <sub>([[User_talk:Onthost|T]] [[Special:Contributions/Onthost|C]])</sub> [[Image:Star_of_life2.png|20px]] 07:22, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
 :::Most likely, yes.  Where did you get 88 from? [[User Talk:JzG|Just zis <span style="border: 1px; border-style:solid; padding:0px 2px 2px 2px; color:white; background-color:darkblue; font-weight:bold">Guy</span> you know?]] 08:40, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
+::::The edit count tool: Deleted edits 87, you have Deleted edits 453. I just thought it was high, after seeing yours it is defently not! Thanks! [[User:Onthost|Mike]] <sub>([[User_talk:Onthost|T]] [[Special:Contributions/Onthost|C]])</sub> [[Image:Star_of_life2.png|20px]] 19:37, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
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