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{{unblock|1=I was trying to edit from my iphone and received a warning "you have been blocked" -- apparently this is a block of the opera mini browser and has nothing to do with me in particular. I do a pretty good amount of editing from my phone, and request that I receive an exemption from this block. I noted on talkpage of [[User:GregJackP]], he experienced similar difficulty and was granted an IP block exemption by [[User:Fetchcomms]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GregJackP&action=historysubmit&diff=373733874&oldid=373733691]. I request a similar exemption, as my account is not subject to a block, and I have not done anything wrong or been accused of wrongdoing. (n.b. - issues related to my IP and editing have been previously disclosed to members of Arbcom if that needs to be checked) <span style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #999999;padding:0px;background:#FFFFff">[[User:Minor4th|<b span style="color:#000000;font-size:110%;"><font face="papyrus">Minor</b><b span style="color:#ff0000;font-size:80%;">4th</font face></b>]] [[User talk:Minor4th|<b span style="color:#000000;font-size:60%;">• talk</b>]]</span> 20:39, 18 July 2010 (UTC)}} |
{{unblock|1=I was trying to edit from my iphone and received a warning "you have been blocked" -- apparently this is a block of the opera mini browser and has nothing to do with me in particular. I do a pretty good amount of editing from my phone, and request that I receive an exemption from this block. I noted on talkpage of [[User:GregJackP]], he experienced similar difficulty and was granted an IP block exemption by [[User:Fetchcomms]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GregJackP&action=historysubmit&diff=373733874&oldid=373733691]. I request a similar exemption, as my account is not subject to a block, and I have not done anything wrong or been accused of wrongdoing. (n.b. - issues related to my IP and editing have been previously disclosed to members of Arbcom if that needs to be checked) <span style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #999999;padding:0px;background:#FFFFff">[[User:Minor4th|<b span style="color:#000000;font-size:110%;"><font face="papyrus">Minor</b><b span style="color:#ff0000;font-size:80%;">4th</font face></b>]] [[User talk:Minor4th|<b span style="color:#000000;font-size:60%;">• talk</b>]]</span> 20:39, 18 July 2010 (UTC)}} |
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Oh brother
This is all very predictable. Note that the admin who denied the unblock request cited 3 diffs -- 2 of which are exactly the same diff is a redirect of an improper merge. If a redirect is a violation of BLP then the editor who I was redirecting is also an egregious BLP violator.
The actions that have been taken since the article went to mainspace is why the article was written in the first place and why the subject is notable and sourced in secondary sources.
Now an SPI? LOL.
Oligarchy is right.
AN/I involving Nineteen Nightmares
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.
:Minor, do you know of any instances where he has reverted my edits? I have suspected so but am not good at finding those things. I certainly understand where you feel you have to leave and walk away. He's all over me personally, however, so I need to do something. I'm just not sure what to do. Dmartinaus • Talk 03:46, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Minor - I truly do not know what to do. To shut up and take it, or to point out the absurdity and absolutely inaccurate things he says. Sigh! It's hard to be accused of so many things and not even speak up. But that would only bring the wrath and comdenation of other editors. What is one to do????? Dmartinaus • Talk 03:58, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
D -- I know you are in a bad position. My best advice is this: you are not going to make any head way with him, period. You will never convince him of anything, so there is no point in even acknowledging the things he says. I do not think anyone else even reads it anyway because anyone who knows NN knows he has it out for you and he's even gotten a bit off his rocker with the conspiracy babble. No one pays attention to it, so I wouldnt worry about what other editors think. When you roll around in the dirt with him, it confuses the issues and makes you look bad too. So I would say ignore him, as difficult as that is. He will burn out if he is not getting attention for his behavior, and he'll move on to something else. The exception to his is if he is disrupting your edits on articles. The way to handle this I think is first of all be scrupulous in your edits so that he has no room for making a valid argument about COI or non-notability. If that is the way you are editing, then if he reverts one of your edits unfairly or changes the wording to make it sound negative when it shouldnt be, then revert him back ...once... and without commentary other than a neutral edit summary like (reverted unexplained removal of sourced information). Do not get into an edit war with him. If he reverts again, take a deep breath and don't go ballistic -- think about whether he has a valid point at all, and if not take it to the talk page and if necessary make a request for comment from other editors. At all times remain dispassionate or you will end up giving legitimacy to his accusations. Consider walking away from the edit for a couple of days even though you feel like you need to resolve it immediately. It is not that pressing. Ask other editors who are working on the articles to take a look and give an opinion but try to avoid engaging with him directly. And Don, although it can get personal, please do not get into this mode of thinking you have to counter every single thing he says. Consider responding simply with a "Please stop" if you feel you have to respond at all. There is no easy solution, but don't confuse the issue by acting badly too -- let his actions speak for themselves. Minor4th • talk 04:20, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! Dmartinaus • Talk 06:11, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Minor4th - Sarah indef blocked 19N. It might be nice if several of us greatfully thanked her for it on the AFI page. Just a thought. Austex • Talk 14:42, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Vandalism
This edit is not vandalism. Do not label edits that are not vandalism as vandalism. If this continues, I will seek to have you prevented from doing so in the future. Thank you. Hipocrite (talk) 03:32, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, it is. Seek whatever you wish. Minor4th • talk 03:38, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Minor4th. Hipocrite (talk) 03:44, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
- When I get around to it, I will read it. I'm in the middle of something at the moment. Minor4th • talk 03:45, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Information for you
[7] --218.201.21.181 (talk) 20:01, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Minor4th • talk 21:02, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, dude. Never meant to turn you into collateral damage. --204.11.245.202 (talk) 01:50, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
- Don't worry. Arbcom has info from me on file from me that will clear me from suspicion on this. Minor4th • talk 02:02, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Hello, Minor4th. I reworked the lead just a bit, as well as the Misuse of terminology section, and commented why on the talk page. Flyer22 (talk) 17:12, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
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ANI
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion is about the topic Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Open_proxies]. Thank you. Toddst1 (talk) 22:36, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Unrelated
On a note unrelated to the above, [8]. Please use it carefully and wisely. I'm off for a wikibreak. Toddst1 (talk) 14:45, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. Minor4th • talk 01:23, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Protection
Where did you get the idea I prot'd the Watson article on Greg's request? no, I did it on my own. — Rlevse • Talk • 14:57, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
- I thought you were responding to his request for full page protection [9] Minor4th • talk 15:20, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Robert Watson article incident
A Quest for Knowledge and I compiled relevant diffs into a sortable table to make it easier for reviewers. The information is contained here
I am notifying those who made reference to the incident on the evidence page, specifically, SBHB, Minor4th, GregJackP, and Hipocrite. Did I miss anyone? --SPhilbrickT 18:08, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. Mark nutley also mentioned it in his evidence. Minor4th • talk 18:21, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
- Well, if you notify MN, you might as well notify WMC. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 18:24, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know if WMC mentioned it in his evidence or not -- I had just read that MN included a section in his evidence about the incident. Notify them both if there's any doubt. It looks good, by the way. Minor4th • talk 18:37, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Solomon
Sort of done - just noticed that the sort by time doesn't work because it is covers multiple days - I know how to fix it, but it will take some time. User:Sphilbrick/Lawrence Solomon article dispute of July 8-10 (I'm concentrating on the conversion, not the content, so please let me know if I blew it on content, e.g. on the other one I realized I accidentally truncated some material - I haven't checked for that here.)--SPhilbrickT 02:05, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks!! I will go take a look now. I did not follow that discussion closely, so I'm not as familiar with it as I was on the Watson edit war, but I will certainly look it over and try to compare it against the edit history and let you know if I find anything that needs tweaking. Minor4th • talk 02:11, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- I'm done for now - again, it could use some proofing, but I've taken care of my OS issues, will check again in the AM--SPhilbrickT 03:01, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Just to be clear - per my discussion with AQFK, I'm doing nothing with this, beyond its creation.--SPhilbrickT 17:27, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- I saw your discussion -- I just edited the table quite a bit, to highlight the edit war. Request input. If AQFK does not want to post it, I will. I am trying to find the exemption stated by Rlevse. Minor4th • talk 17:30, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- Just to be clear - per my discussion with AQFK, I'm doing nothing with this, beyond its creation.--SPhilbrickT 17:27, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Request exemption from Opera mini block

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- Hi. I poked a fellow with a mop. Chill ;) Jack Merridew 20:51, 18 July 2010 (UTC)