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Hello, can I ask you one question about [[Mario Zagallo]]'s 'Coordinator' position?
Hello, can I ask you one question about [[Mario Zagallo]]'s 'Coordinator' position?


The page says that he was [[Brazil national football team]]'s Coordinator(Coordenador) in 1991–1994 and 2003–2006([https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2024/01/06/relembre-a-carreira-de-zagallo.ghtml This news] says that he was a 'Technical Coordinator( Coordenador técnico) in 1994), but the 'Coordinator' position is quite unfamiliar to me. I wonder if this position is same as assistant coach or the staff of [[Brazilian Football Confederation]] which handles the contact between the football confederation and the national football team...
The page says that he was [[Brazil national football team]]'s Coordinator(Coordenador) in 1991–1994 and 2003–2006([https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2024/01/06/relembre-a-carreira-de-zagallo.ghtml This news] says that he was a 'Technical Coordinator(Coordenador técnico) in 1994), but the 'Coordinator' position is quite unfamiliar to me. I wonder if this position is same as assistant coach or the staff of [[Brazilian Football Confederation]] which handles the contact between the football confederation and the national football team...


Can you please help me about this information? --[[User:YellowTurtle9|YellowTurtle9]] ([[User talk:YellowTurtle9|talk]]) 12:05, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
Can you please help me about this information? --[[User:YellowTurtle9|YellowTurtle9]] ([[User talk:YellowTurtle9|talk]]) 12:05, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

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Meu amigo, tudo em cima?

Escuta, consegues arranjar o gráfico em baixo deste jogador? Que confusão que está aquilo (por exemplo, a mesma temporada repetida com diferentes números! E ele só está no Girona há duas épocas)...

Um santo Natal para ti e para os teus, tudo de bom! Abraços :) 2001:8A0:7643:2400:90CF:BAC0:2D7B:3E79 (talk) 20:55, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done: feito e atualizado! Abraços e ótimas festas a todos por aí também :) BRDude70 (talk) 21:17, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Outra pra ti: Maicon (footballer, born September 1988). Depois de arranjar um pouco o artigo (por exemplo, inserir referências), ia colocar as estatísticas das Ligas estaduais brasileiras na caixa. Mas tive de desistir depois de ver aquela confusão de números (e não percebi muito bem a cena dos empréstimos, até no Al Nassr a caixa e o gráfico em baixo dizem coisas diferentes em alguns números)!

Mais abraços, obrigado de antemão --2001:8A0:7643:2400:2879:C9D0:6BE6:B2AD (talk) 19:30, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

O gráfico e a caixinha estão certos. Maicon foi comprado pelo Al Nassr em Julho de 2020, na época tinha jogado 28 jogos na liga (que ainda não tinha acabado). Depois, jogou mais 7 jogos na temporada 2019/20 e os da 2020/21. Atualizado o restante, abraços! BRDude70 (talk) 19:38, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reverts

Just to explain my reverts. While I don't dispute that the transfers are about to happen, what I'm waiting for is an official statement by both clubs either in their website or social media accounts.

Arrué has been reported in the media as fired, but Audax Italiano hasn't announced his departure to the point where the media is now doubting that he's leaving.

Same with Huachipato, Álvarez left for Universidad de Chile, and Sanguinetti is going to be Huachipato's manager, but Huachipato haven't announced it yet. They did announce Álvarez departure today, and that's why I edited it. Media reports and news are one thing, but policy is to wait until the club themselves announce it. Ardije (talk) 03:40, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Ardije:
  1. Your edits were incorrect. They will be managers for the 2024 season, not 2023. So you don't put 2023 in the infobox;
  2. Your edits at Sanguinetti were incorrect. If you're going to remove incorrect information, remove it properly. I had added a bunch of valid categories in the article, that were blindly removed;
  3. Your spelling is often incorrect and your content is unsourced (i.e. your edits at Héctor Mancilla);
  4. the correct dash to add in the infobox is "–", not "-";
Aside from that, you may revert the unofficial moves with no problem, but do it correctly. Cheers, BRDude70 (talk) 03:46, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
1 and 2. Understood. I did not see the catgories before reverting, and I should've checked. My bad.
3. I'll have to find the news sources about what I put in that article at it's due time.
4. Ok.
I just wanted to explain the reason for the reverts and avoid an edit war. The rest, I'll keep in mind and improve. I've nothing against you, just trying to contribute. Have a good one. Ardije (talk) 03:56, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Ardije: No worries, that's just a "heads up" so we can contribute in a more efficient way. Happy Holidays, BRDude70 (talk) 03:58, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's ok! Nothing that you said was untrue, you know? Valid criticism and corrections are helpful for improvement and better editing in the long run. The spelling thing kind of hurt though, hahaha, but I swear it's mostly over not checking properly before sending it, rather than poor English.
Happy holidays too! Ardije (talk) 04:01, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Ardije: None of these points were intended to hurt, believe me :) BRDude70 (talk) 04:04, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Only one of them did! Although it's great to know it was unintentional, hahaha. I truly appreciate the corrections though, I have to do better and I wiil. Cheers! Ardije (talk) 04:12, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Passive aggressiveness

Hello. Just so you know, I thought this came across as a bit passive aggressive. Why did you quote "the rationale"? And why the caps on "every" and the dots at the end?
If my interpretation is incorrect, please tell me, but if not, remember that we're based on willingness to help the encyclopedia. Paul Vaurie (talk) 18:44, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Paul Vaurie: No passive agression at all. I'm just tired of people misinterpreting South American football because of "European standards".
You may take a look at Nico Estévez: appointed at FC Dallas on 2 December 2021, only took over for the 2022 season, not 2021. Another example: Aderlan was signed by Santos on 27 December 2023, for the 2024 season (explicitly said in the announcement), why write 2023? Same goes to Beraldo, he only featured for São Paulo until the 2023 season, he was not under contract when the club's 2024 season started (São Paulo did not even return to the pre-season yet...), so it makes no sense, in my opinion, to write "2022–24". If you believe I'm wrong, feel free to discuss this at WT:FOOTY. Cheers, BRDude70 (talk) 19:28, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the reasoning behind it is the exact date/time of the transfer, not the season. No one is mistaking that the Brazilian season ends in the calendar year. Paul Vaurie (talk) 19:37, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Paul Vaurie: Sure, sure. That's why in every Brazilian transfer, we add it like this (with the exception of the 2020 season which ended in February 2021). I'd keep it this way, but again, feel free to raise a discussion about it. Cheers, BRDude70 (talk) 19:43, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feliz 2024, meu chapa! Podes dar aqui uma ajudinha se faz favor (primeira linha do "club career")? Mais um pouco, estamos metendo "Reus, Tarragona, Catalonia, Spain, Europe, Planet Earth"...

Abraços, tudo de bom RevampedEditor (talk) 12:15, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feliz 2024! Já removi o "Spain" e ajustei o "Province of Tarragona". Abraços! BRDude70 (talk) 12:53, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mario Zagallo's Coordinator position

Hello, can I ask you one question about Mario Zagallo's 'Coordinator' position?

The page says that he was Brazil national football team's Coordinator(Coordenador) in 1991–1994 and 2003–2006(This news says that he was a 'Technical Coordinator(Coordenador técnico) in 1994), but the 'Coordinator' position is quite unfamiliar to me. I wonder if this position is same as assistant coach or the staff of Brazilian Football Confederation which handles the contact between the football confederation and the national football team...

Can you please help me about this information? --YellowTurtle9 (talk) 12:05, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@YellowTurtle9: Hello! It seems like he was Parreira's assistant in the 1994 WC, but was also a coordinator on both periods mentioned. Looks like he helped the head coaches to pick the players for the competitions, but in 1994 was also acting as Parreira's assistant.
So, the period between 91 and 94, he was a coordinator and Parreira's assistant, while in 2003–06 he was a technical coordinator. I have to say that his role was very unusual, people didn't use this role that much in the NT or in Brazilian clubs... I guess that he remained due to the profound respect he had amongst the members of the NT overall.
I hope that helps you a bit. Cheers, BRDude70 (talk) 13:31, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for your assistance! Have a nice day! :) --YellowTurtle9 (talk) 13:42, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]