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== More information on his leadership campaign is needed in this article == |
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Is the opinion of [[Jacob Rees-Mogg]] really more worthy of being in the leadership bid than anything about Sunak's actual leadership campaign thus far? Why is there little to no information about it here? [[Special:Contributions/89.243.125.209|89.243.125.209]] ([[User talk:89.243.125.209|talk]]) 22:14, 25 July 2022 (UTC) |
Is the opinion of [[Jacob Rees-Mogg]] really more worthy of being in the leadership bid section than anything about Sunak's actual leadership campaign thus far? Why is there little to no information about it here? [[Special:Contributions/89.243.125.209|89.243.125.209]] ([[User talk:89.243.125.209|talk]]) 22:14, 25 July 2022 (UTC) |
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Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme
I'm not sure about this content. I think it probably fits better into the UK coronavirus article. The first sentence is also not phrased neutrally. Bellowhead678 (talk) 20:20, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
- Agree. Removed it for the 2nd time. Debates around government policies are normal in a democracy, but this does not mean we need to stick all that into politicians' biographies. — kashmīrī TALK 20:49, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
It needs to be pointed out that 3 million people have been excluded from his scheme that "helps everyone". https://www.excludeduk.org/excluded-uk-an-inclusive-alliance-for-the-excluded — Preceding unsigned comment added by AVMan61 (talk • contribs) 06:39, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 26 November 2020
Hi I want to add the names of Rishi Sunaks daughters under his children section citing this source https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10964687/who-rishi-sunaks-wife-akshata-murthy/ HiramWikiMan (talk) 16:22, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
- We usually don't mention the names of children unless they're independently notable, and also The Sun can no longer be used as a source on Wikipedia. – Thjarkur (talk) 17:15, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
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"has taken his oath at the House of Commons on the Bhagavad Gita since 2017.[84][85]"
This is quite a bizarre thing to bring up to talk, but it begs the question, what did he do in 2015? Is there any text or video documentation of the swearing-in in 2015? Indian sources are usually very happy to bring up the successes of the diaspora, but the only story they have in May 2015 is on an Australian MP. This Indian source from 2019 criticises British Hindus for taking an affirmation instead of an oath, so one would think they'd have done the same in 2015 had Sunak just affirmed? Unknown Temptation (talk) 22:18, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- he's not a member of Parliament if he hasn't taken the oath. 92.5.77.165 (talk) 14:43, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- That's not really answering the question at all. If in 2017 and 2019 he swore on the holy book of his faith, as sourced in this article, what did he do in 2015 and why have no sources, including India- and Hinduism-related ones covered it? FYI you don't need to take an oath to be an MP. Atheists, or denominations forbidden from taking oaths like Jehovah's Witnesses and Quakers, affirm which has the same legal consequence but does not take the name of God. Unknown Temptation (talk) 17:25, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- I think you raise a fair point here. I've reviewed all the RS noted (and a few more) and find the subject of 2015 to be omitted. While accurate, "since 2017" clearly implies that he did not do so previously, which is not supported. Nor should we adopt the language that says he did. I see two options: a) changing to "since at least 2017" or b) removing "since 2017." I believe the latter is less suggestive and the best of all three constructions, and have updated accordingly. GreatCaesarsGhost 18:22, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- That's not really answering the question at all. If in 2017 and 2019 he swore on the holy book of his faith, as sourced in this article, what did he do in 2015 and why have no sources, including India- and Hinduism-related ones covered it? FYI you don't need to take an oath to be an MP. Atheists, or denominations forbidden from taking oaths like Jehovah's Witnesses and Quakers, affirm which has the same legal consequence but does not take the name of God. Unknown Temptation (talk) 17:25, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Second lord
As the Chancellor is now always Second Lord of the Treasury can we stop treating it as a separate office for the purpose of these succession boxes? It just complicates matters. PatGallacher (talk) 18:17, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Keir Starmer's opinion on Sunak is ____
Why does half the political positions on the page have a contrary opinion at the end of them from Keir Starmer? No other political pages appear to do this. 121.99.77.200 (talk) 10:47, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
Section on the Ready For Rishi campaign?
Since Rishi Sunak has announced his campaign bid, I think an expanded section in the article body mentioning this is needed. 89.243.125.209 (talk) 16:22, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- It seems the domain "readyforrishi.com", which re-directs to "ready4rishi.com", was registered in December 2021: [1]. So maybe planning ahead of any government crisis? Martinevans123 (talk) 08:54, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- It definitely seems that way. --89.243.125.209 (talk) 19:39, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
40.5% increased majority?
Page states Sunak in 2016 reelection won an increased majority of 40.5%. By definition, a majority is greater than 50%. The correct term is plurality 2600:1015:B061:F712:9CE5:85FA:8E68:646B (talk) 07:26, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- The tables at 2017 general election all use the word "majority". Martinevans123 (talk) 07:33, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- This is a different (British) meaning of the term majority. In the use here, it indicates the difference between the first and second place candidates. Sunak received 63.9% to his opponent's 23.4%, a difference/majority of 40.5%. Of course, this also means that Sunak actually did receive a majority of the total vote share (not merely a plurality). GreatCaesarsGhost 19:44, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Infobox image edit war
There seems to be an edit war on Sunak's infobox, it's constantly been changed from the 2020 image to the 2017 one, and vice versa. I believe the 2020 image is better for the infobox, it's a more up-to-date picture and was taken when Sunak was the chancellor (his most recent ministerial job). But I'd be interested to see what other users think about this. 89.243.125.209 (talk) 23:35, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don't see an edit war. I see one user reverted to an older photo without rationale. Flipped back to the 2020, but discussion can continue here. GreatCaesarsGhost 01:11, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- My mistake; I see it now. @MattFullerTV: can you please weigh in as to your preference for the older photo? GreatCaesarsGhost 01:18, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2022
You need to include in the section on his work during Covid, (Redacted) Source: ExcludedUK website. Your current entry has nothing but positive stuff. It's a fan letter, not an accurate reflection of the subject. And locking it against amendment is a disgrace. You're supposed to be at least pretending to be unbiased. 46.69.61.61 (talk) 14:05, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Not done Can you be clearer about the source you're providing to support these claims - exact URLs, please. Claims as extraordinary as this will also require more reliable sourcing than an advocacy website. — Czello 14:12, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2022 (2)
When you write about ExcludedUK, don't forget to mention that an All Party Parliamentary Group (APPG) (the largest in history) was set up to investigate why Sunak had chosen to exclude nearly 4 million people from any help, and to lobby for him to change his policy. 46.69.61.61 (talk) 15:34, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:38, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
"The upcoming Conservative party leadership election"
Could this be updated as the election has started now, should be changed to "the ongoing Conservative party leadership election". It's also worth mentioning in the leadership bid section of the article that Sunak is currently leading the polls, followed closely by Penny Mordaunt. 89.243.125.209 (talk) 08:28, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- done, I just removed the "upcoming" as it wasn't ongoing when he made the announcement. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 09:14, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. But more information on Sunak's leadership bid is needed for this article. --89.243.125.209 (talk) 16:50, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
The correct pronunciation of the last name
I believe the correct pronunciation of the last name should "ʃunak", the first syllable should be "ʃ" and not "s", "ʃunak" shows up in vedic history while "sunak" does not not. Also, the name should be in the native language Hindi as well, "ऋषि शुनक" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Singlesimple (talk • contribs) 20:03, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Is issuance of a fixed penalty notice worthy of mention in the lede?
I'm not a Brit, but from what I read, a fixed penalty notice is like a citation from the police in the US for a minor infraction, like driving one's automobile with a taillight out. It is currently mentioned in the article lede: "...being issued a fixed penalty notice for breaching COVID-19 regulations during lockdowns."
Question: is this a fact worthy of the article lede? in a BLP? I would think not, but happy to see what others think. N2e (talk) 00:08, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, in the UK it's comparable with a speeding fine - you don't go to court unless you want to contest it. Normally not worthy of mention in any bio article. But in this case, I'd say yes, it should be mentioned. He's in Category:People fined in the Partygate scandal and that should be supported in the text. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:57, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
More information on his leadership campaign is needed in this article
Is the opinion of Jacob Rees-Mogg really more worthy of being in the leadership bid section than anything about Sunak's actual leadership campaign thus far? Why is there little to no information about it here? 89.243.125.209 (talk) 22:14, 25 July 2022 (UTC)