I’m not sure if it was you or {{u|RudolfRed}} who gave me the answer of “even if you misplaced your mobile device, if you purchase a new device, and login with your Apple ID, the FreeOTP app should still recognize you” in retrospect, I dont even know how or why I didn’t think of that before asking the question, that was a no-brainer, it crossed my mind today. Thanks to you both once again. '''[[User:Celestina007|Celestina007]]''' ([[User talk:Celestina007|talk]]) 17:00, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
I’m not sure if it was you or {{u|RudolfRed}} who gave me the answer of “even if you misplaced your mobile device, if you purchase a new device, and login with your Apple ID, the FreeOTP app should still recognize you” in retrospect, I dont even know how or why I didn’t think of that before asking the question, that was a no-brainer, it crossed my mind today. Thanks to you both once again. '''[[User:Celestina007|Celestina007]]''' ([[User talk:Celestina007|talk]]) 17:00, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
== Historical overview of projects supporting women ==
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Hey! I suspect the spring thaw is on in Alaska, as you have come out of hibernation ready to go: New Name, New Page design! You are looking good my friend. Stay peaceful and have a great sunny season. Regards, GenQuest"scribble"15:11, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@GenQuest: A few changes never hurt :). I'll probably change colours again in a few months but blue seemed to be calling to me for now. Anyway, I haven't forgotten about merging articles, I am slowly working on infoboxing Protected Areas (Glaciers, Mountain, Rivers and Lakes). I check AfD's once a day and might comment or assess one or two. I saw the one you nominated and decided to take a look. It was a good nomination. We can't evaluate the effectiveness or lack of it when articles are allowed to stay because we think they belong or we like them being here, especially in regards to BLP's. --ARoseWolf16:32, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think if you are only making statements about what roles she played or what shows/movies she appeared in or directed then it is okay to use IMDb or some other site that only confirms roles. I think notability is met per the other reliably sourced content. Readers can make up their own mind. --ARoseWolf12:40, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for having a look. I haven't thought of a good hook yet. The Standing Cloud (her birth name, BTW) film is evading me, and IMDb is rarely allowed in the article body. Same with finding RS on an apparent sister (maybe half-sister) of hers who is also an actress, and indications of at least one brother in her adopted family. There should also be an article on the Cherokee Name for Water film. Apparently a noted and well-received film, but one that has no article. Maybe something you'd care to do? (I won't be able to get to it for a bit, but will eventually if you don't have the time.) Now that I am officially retired (Yay!!), it seems that I'm busier than ever. Speaking of which, I now have to get to work. Bye, for now. GenQuest"scribble"15:08, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Good to know and congrats on your retirement. Stay busy but also make time to slow down. :) I'll look at writing an article for the film. --ARoseWolf15:13, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt, Ched, and Ritchie333: You are well more seasoned than I am at this. Do you agree if notability has been established and the information is purely to list roles of the individual in film and theater and not personal biographical information then sources like IMDb can be used? --ARoseWolf15:06, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
STAAAAAHP apologizing (lol), Ched. I asked for opinions for that exact reason. GenQuest is the creator, major editor of the article. I think I added the VIAF ID as part of the Authority Control so far (lol). I see Gen added the IMDb at the bottom as an external reference which is the correct usage. I'll keep looking for citations. I noticed her mothers name was Standing Cloud somewhere but didn't know she was given that name too. Makes sense. When I was born I was given the name Rose as a middle name, obviously named after my mother, though I never grew up with it. My father only gave my first name to my grandmother when he took me to Italy, maybe it caused him too much pain, idk. As far as we know my grandmother never told my uncle and aunt what my birth name was. The fact he did give her my first name at birth and she wrote it in her journals was crucial to me finding out about my past, prior to Italy. --ARoseWolf16:01, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm having a look at seeing if I can source the remaining tagged claims in the article, and then if I can cite enough to ensure notability is met. From a standing start, it's not looking promising though, I get zero hits in a Google News search, and for somebody who's supposed to be notable in the modern internet age, that's a bit of an alarm bell. Ritchie333(talk)(cont)18:43, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Cherokee moons article
Hi there. Care to help me revamp the article so that we don't have to rely on a fake tribe and a commercial site? Also I think it would be respectful to include both dialects in current use. Indigenous girl (talk) 20:42, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Indigenous girl, you don't have to apologize. I am worn down from the discussions on St. Joseph's so I understand. I removed most of the Cherokee articles off my watchlist after discussing the situation with my family in Oklahoma. They actually suggested I not edit here, period, but I can't just walk away. I feel extremely bad for some of my past edits, even if they were founded in good intentions. So, of course, I will assist you in getting the facts corrected and properly sourced. I find the treatment of my ancestors to be horrific. I know you feel the same and possibly faced it yourself. I don't want that message to be lost. So I'm kind of defying my aunts wishes anyway. I hope she understands. --ARoseWolf20:55, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Indigenous girl No, no, I want to do it. I would love nothing more than to collaborate with you and get this fixed. I'm not very familiar with the Giduwa dialect. I will start by finding other sources rather than the fake tribe and then find a sources to use instead of the commercial site. Then focus on getting sources to add the other dialect. --ARoseWolf12:10, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Indigenous girl I think I found it in my material from Western Carolina. Then I found a source when I searched for unolvtana. It's from another university, Western Washington University? Never heard of it but it matchs the material I have from WCU. It's also found in several books with one book misappropriating it as Iroquoian and spoken by those living in the US State of North Carolina. --ARoseWolf12:31, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The "cite unseen" tool (also known as "how to spot a BLP violating source at ten paces") can be installed by going to Special:MyPage/common.js and copy and paste this:
CiteUnseen is synced with WP:RSP and shows little icons in the Ref section of an article. There's also a script by User:Headbomb/unreliable - another useful tool that uses highlight colors. I use the 2 together. Headbomb's script follows everywhere, whereas CiteUnseen is limited to the Ref section. Atsme💬 📧 15:04, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Ritchie333 and Atsme: I just hope I'm doing it right. Followed the instructions above. I'm not so tech savvy. Put me in a dog sled or task me with scaling a mountain and I'm there. ;-P --ARoseWolf15:13, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Another one I really like is:
importScript('User:Gary/comments in local time.js');
It does exactly what you would expect it to do. Obviously in the UK the UTC default it's merely annoying seven months in the year, and then actually correct for the other five, but for anywhere else, doing the mental arithmetic to get back to UTC is a pain in the neck. Ritchie333(talk)(cont)14:46, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Elizium23, you mean bad faith like you insinuating that I view the school as intrinsically evil? Not at all. Only you know if you have a COI in this case. I am going to walk away from this and take a real walk. The clear air may do some good. Have a nice rest of your day. I will state that I don't believe you have edited in bad faith even if we disagree on the talk page. --ARoseWolf21:01, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much, Cdjp1. I apologize for not getting back to you sooner but I haven't felt well as of late. I appreciate your recognition, immensely, though I feel like I can never do enough to bring awareness of issues related to Indigenous peoples and cultures. I was taken away from that part of my heritage when I was still very small. I don't even remember my mother though. it may seem kind of weird but, I do remember her singing beside my crib. Or maybe she visited me as I was growing up and sat beside me as I slept, singing her songs over me. That's a nice thought. A comfort in itself, to know that my darkest days may still have contained something as sweet as an encounter with the woman who gave so much, her life even, that I might live. It also inspires me not to give up, never to give up, on the beauty of the world around me. Today may be a fight just to breathe but its worth the fight to see the snow-capped mountains bathed in sunlight, to hear the birds chirping their melodies and the sight and smell of vast evergreen forests filling the air with the scent of fir and spruce. The wild flowers in bloom in the meadows with their vibrant colours are simply gorgeous but the most beautiful things to me are the interactions with my fellow humanity. Thank you again for your kindness and for the recognition. --ARoseWolf13:28, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Now I imagine you braiding your hair putting flowers inside! - Back to the list: will you combine the two entries? (I don't have the courage to count how many are banned, blocked, left, - I don't need cheating by duplicate ;) ) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt: Right, yes, okay, I will combine them. Despite the fact that my brothers would agree that I have a few personalities I don't think including them all in the list really benefits what you are doing that much. ;) --ARoseWolf13:33, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Did you get that burger? How're you doing? I got cut off at straight up 5 o'clock, no surprise. Today I did call my Senator and she's gonna see what she can do. So fingers crossed my situation will resolve. Sending sunshine and rainbows to you and hoping for positive news. SusunW (talk) 20:57, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, SusunW. I love that you have sun in your name. Maybe I will just call you Sunshine. Thank you for checking in on me. I haven't gotten that burger yet but I am being told it should happen soon. I was about to be discharged yesterday when preliminary results showed that I was positive for acute leukemia. This is an initial observation but the final results will reveal more. I'm okay for now but I will have to start treatments as soon as today and that requires a month of isolation after starting. I don't know what they will allow me to bring but I really hope I can keep this laptop. I work Wikipedia kind of like a job, mostly researching during the day and making adjustments as I go. This could throw off my entire schedule but, given the circumstances, its a minute inconvenience. The biggest issue could possibly be a bone marrow donor but we'll cross that bridge when we get there. Chin up, press forward! Life's adventures are in the details, so live it! --ARoseWolf12:39, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Having walked the walk through cancer treatments, I can say that it wasn't fun but it wasn't as bad as I thought it might be. The most important thing was having an amazing support network of friends and family. I used WP like a job, as well, to give me a routine and relieve stress. One of the reasons I avoid conflict on here, it's job is to be a fun outlet for me. I love that you see this journey as an adventure. I did as well, I even posted that somewhere. Hang in there. With any adventure there are good parts and bad, but focusing on the beauty and the good things and life is the way to go. {{hugs}} (For what it's worth, the Senator was amazing. The license went in the mail last night!) SusunW (talk) 13:11, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@SusunW: Great news! I love it when it comes together and works out. It can be a struggle but the best things in life usually are. I'm going to climb my mountains again, very soon. --ARoseWolf13:23, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda, I love those. They are so beautiful. I am thrilled that you were able to get outside. I will be able to again. I am determined. I didn't do as much today. I've been hurting a little so its taken my concentration. I had my second round of both treatments. They are giving me one for three days and the other for seven days simultaneously. Then I get a week off before starting again. I can tell I'm very sluggish and tire more easily as the day has went on. The doctors said I will have to do this for four months so it doesn't look like I will see my mountains for a while. They said I'm a very sick girl. That may be but I love life and I'm a fighter. They are going to let my daughter come see me next week for a few hours. She's been asking all kinds of questions. I want her to braid my hair before I lose it. It make take a few weeks for it to start falling out. I've had short hair before but never lost it. Thank you for sending me these flowers. --ARoseWolf20:23, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I love the darker spots on the petals. Looks like a spider made a nice home in that bush too. Such a wonderous display of nature. I can smell the fragrance. The perfect gift. --ARoseWolf20:28, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I braided and donated mine before it all fell out. Actually researched if that would be problematic and was told that it wouldn't. Having donated my hair to Locks of Love for over 30 years, I wanted to be sure if I couldn't do it again, I'd make the last one count. My sister braided it for me and we whacked it off. A friend from Japan was visiting and she took it back to the US to donate for me. SusunW (talk) 21:12, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
SusunW, you have no idea how thankful I am for you. Such an inspiration and I am grateful you came through your experience. I will probably have a lot more questions for you at some point. I did contact them about donating my hair. I let mine grow out and it is nearly down to the back of my knees so lots of it. I've had a couple of tired days, especially over the weekend, but that's not too uncommon for me. Feeling a bit of nervous energy too. I just think it is being where I am. It wears on me. I feel thin and stretched. Gerda Arendt, one step at a time but I am going to climb. Thank you for that reminder that its putting one foot in front of the other. I've faced so many challenges and probably shouldn't even be alive now but I am so I will do the most with the time I have and keep living, one minute at a time. GenQuest, thank you so much. Such a beautiful rose. It is precious to me. --ARoseWolf13:11, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Canivet's emerald, (Chlorostilbon canivetii), a busy little hummingbird twittering about, feeding on scarlet jungleflame, enjoying life.
ARoseWolf Keeping you in my heart. Take one day at a time, look for the beautiful moments, cast aside the hard ones, and be kind to you. Listen to your body. Treatment is different for everyone in my experience, so sometimes, you need a break. Doesn't mean stopping or giving up, just a pause. If you need one, don't be afraid to ask. Adventures often mean shifting directions. I'm here if you need me. SusunW (talk) 13:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I just saw this thread, and my thoughts and prayers are with you, ARoseWolf. My neighbor here on Bonaire had a similar diagnosis several years ago. In the beginning, he had his ups and downs, pretty much what you described, but the treatments have worked wonders for him and I pray it will all work-out well for you, too. He travels quite a bit these days - which in and of itself can be very fatiguing. When he arrives here from the US, he takes a few days to recoup, closely follows the doctor's instructions, and then off he goes to explore and enjoy island life. I wish you only the best, and share Gerda's & SusunW's sentiments. Think positive thoughts, sweetie.❤️ Atsme💬 📧 14:53, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
SusunW, I have always been good about listening to others but have become acutely aware of my body over the last few years and learned to listen more closely. I talked to my brother and family this morning and he says I am grumpy today (lol). I told him if he didn't have my tanning racks built before I get back then I will be even more grumpy. Admittedly, I can be a bit feisty. They promised me new ones last winter but never got them built. I really need them for this next year. I have so much to do. Atsme, thank you so much. Your words are a significant encouragement. I've just begun my treatments with only one week into them. They thought I might have had leukemia two years ago but did the same tests and it came back different then so I have had undiagnosed issues for some time. I had really bad nose bleeds for years and even coughed up blood on occasions. They would analyze and run tests but never could find a reason. My mother died from similar issues but I'm not exactly sure what that was because she was never diagnosed with anything. I'm very much looking forward to remission and the transplant so I can get on with life. --ARoseWolf15:22, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Watching for pigs on the wing....
Just dropping in, I was reminded of an incident just over two years ago where I got sciatica from a trapped back nerve caused by 30 years of humping musical gear around. As the article says, with sources, "Sciatica is most common between the ages of 40 and 59, and men are more frequently affected than women." The doctor said it would go away of its own accord in a few weeks, but otherwise there's nothing they could do. I couldn't sit down or lie down and went for four days without sleep, and wondered if my musical career was over. Still, it did indeed get better, I have downsized my gear and am using soft cases (not as secure but more back friendly) and a dose of serious painkillers does make early Pink Floyd more fun to listen to. Ritchie333(talk)(cont)11:10, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ritchie333, that sounds so painful. I'm glad you found somewhat of a remedy and even more happy that your musical career is not over. Music is all around us all the time. The musician, the singer, the painter, the poet, the author, the dancer all have tapped into that energy and put it on display for us. I get the trippy experience without the heavy medication so listening to music is a particular joy. My problem is that I cant help but dance with the music. I'm such a child of the 60's born in the late 80's. Aquarius to my core. --ARoseWolf13:21, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In my case, music, and specifically performing on stage, is what transformed me from being a cross between a teenage Roy Trenneman and Maurice Moss into something people rather liked, and so I'll never give it up as it is part of who I am. You can get an idea of what music I like from my GAs, but I've played lots of the classic '60s soul and Motown repertoire for years. Anyway, enough about me. Having seen relatives succumb to cancer, and having donated to Cancer Research for most of my life, I'm not really sure what else I can say to be reassuring beyond what other people have said - but things ain't over 'till they're over, and as long as you have a fire and spark in you (and it certainly seems like you do), then hopefully that'll keep you going and get through this. Ritchie333(talk)(cont)14:31, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It is impossible not to smile when one is dancing simply for expression (maybe if it's your job, it's possible). Music and dance transcend language and speak to our souls. SusunW (talk) 14:42, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
My Papa owned a general store here in Alaska, for many years. I was fortunate to work the store with him. He never treated it like a job though he always treated me like an employee when we walked through the front door. He was a fair man. His belief was that something only becomes a job if you hate doing it. If it is something you love then it is part of you like your DNA. Music, I believe, is part of our DNA. For me, colors and music are one and the same. Painting with colors is very much like a composer of a symphony. Because syllables can be like musical notes, poetry is like sheet music. I see colors and hear notes in every letter, even as we write here, if I allow myself to open up to it. Letters correspond to colors and colors correspond to notes which correspond to letters. Its a circle, much like life. It's not something I have to force or make happen. It just does. In fact, I have to force myself not to. So, for me, music, dance, singing and painting are a language of the Spirit inside us and that is part of our Life force. As to the fire inside me, it burns bright. I have a song still to sing and music yet to make, dreams to dream and paintings to paint. Our lives are poetry in action, a dance long anticipated before the foundations of the world, it will be seen but once. --ARoseWolf15:48, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I hear you, I hear you!! - I came to say that I added, to my talk: missing SlimVirgin, and RMF festival opening, and to the collection more details about the music. The beginning of the Sibelius Violin Concerto: what the violin has to say could be a song to your mountain, - listen! (in the livestream, the soloist enters at 14:30) - I smiled when I read "grumpy" above, and at the same time, thunder rolled. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:58, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Mmmmmm, Gerda, you are a joy, I declare. A thunderstorm rolling off the peaks. One of those you can hear for miles through the valley. I have stood upon the mountain with my hair in the wind facing the storm as it rolled in. I know it's name and I have faced its fierce gaze with one equally as determined. The thunder shakes and the sound upon the strings of my heart responds with a sound that resonates in Earth and Sky. The storm knows my name as well. The violin, as a stringed instrument, is one of my favorites. I love and play the cello. The eagles love its sound. I had one that would land on the ledge of the mountain near my home where I would go to dance and sing. My concert is always for them. I wonder if they miss me. --ARoseWolf17:21, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt:, Those white roses are gorgeous. SO much joy. I changed up my user page look. I hope Phaedriel doesn't mind, wherever she is. I took her layout and modified it with some help. I wanted to give her credit though. Such an amazing person. I have been reading her contributions to help me get to know here a little. I was kind of hurting too much to really focus on updating any articles. I guess it's going to be like this. Ups and downs. My bones and joints have been hurting a little. It's more of a lingering pain than a sharp one. Joy fills my heart as morning comes. Time to Sing another song. --ARoseWolf12:12, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I took another pic thinking of you, with a ladybug - we call it Glückskäfer, a symbol of good luck. I'm too tired for uploading, after an extra article, Psalm 123 thinking of Yoninah who was honoured today by a special DYK set: her best hooks (discussion on her talk). justice and peace kissing - we wrote that together. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:12, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmmm, my last message to you disappeared. I thought maybe I failed to save it, but it's there in the history. Weird? At any rate, just checking in and hoping your pain has lessened a bit. It heartens me to see you popping up here and there, as I know that is a sign that you feel good enough to do it and the fight is still there. SusunW (talk) 20:17, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
SusunW, sorry the message disappeared. It's been a tough weekend. A lot of pain and naseau. They had to give me additional platelets. The last few days have been the most difficult so far. I appreciate all the well wishes here. --ARoseWolf16:18, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
RoseWolf - I only learned of this challenge that the Great Spirit has tasked you with, and I was at a complete loss for words. Still, today, I feel I must let you know that my heart, my prayers, and all my best wishes are with you. I have faith that you will find your way to the other side of this difficult path, and I know you'll be stronger for it. You have all my undying and heartfelt thoughts with you. — Ched (talk) 20:57, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Know that you are in my thoughts. Know that there is sunshine on the other side. I hope that this period of extreme discomfort will abate. (In my case, it came and went in waves and fortunately was not prolonged more than I could bear). Sending you strength and energy through the cosmos. SusunW (talk) 16:25, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
So, the process forward is that I start another round of chemo this week. After that they will take a bone marrow sample. If the results show me heading in the right direction then they will keep me for two weeks and then release me to go home. If the sample reveals a continuation of the leukemia then I may have a third chemo round and that's when they will seek a bone marrow transplant. --ARoseWolf14:25, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Susun and Gerda. Right now the biggest concern is that I have almost no protection against anything. I get a couple of sores on my lips and a few other places but they said that's just from having no immune system to speak of. The medical staff have done an amazing job so far. My white cell count has been hovering around .5 or .6 though it was as low as .1 over the past week. Average is between 4.5 and 11. --ARoseWolf14:55, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda, Beautiful! I hope you enjoyed your time at the opera again. I simply love the beauty we can create with our voices. There are so many that probably don't have an article that should. I trust you rested well and yes, please, more. :) --ARoseWolf13:46, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There will be new articles for the conductors, a singer in Inferno, and the director of Dialogues (who was on my to-do-list anyway). Some of the young singers perhaps later. Next opera tomorrow!! just keep watching, but for all weekend I will be mostly off, travel and family gathering - my brother is playing in the orchestra, as he was for Der Ring in Minden, one of two to play the first note. Same marvellous singers announced. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:09, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt: I will be watching intently! Please be safe on your journey's and bring me back lots of details. I am sending so much love your way, my friend. --ARoseWolf14:24, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I felt it coming, thank you so much - I was out, pics to come but may take to Monday, I have a few things waiting that I need to do today. If you want to meet another user, how about Brianboulton, birthday 4 July? Carmen was already TFA this year, and now its lead image will come up as today's featured picture. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:30, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you and wishing you well
Thanks for your comments on my work at St. Joseph's Indian School. Seeing the above thread, I wish you all the best in your path, and hope you continue to work with us here. Art and music of many sorts do lift us, and we are part of "the sun and moon and even all the stars". I hope you can see your beloved mountains from your windows; they are with you always, no matter what.Parkwells (talk) 22:17, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Parkwells, you are most welcome. Thank you for your well wishes. I'm not going anywhere but I have up and down days. Some days I may do more here and others I may do less. I love Wikipedia a lot though. I don't plan on leaving. I won't see my mountains for a while it seems. The flights back and forth for treatment would cost a fortune. They are in my heart. I miss the land. --ARoseWolf12:36, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keeping track
Just a word to let you know that I really welcome your comments on my talk page. It's really good to see you take an interest in what I am doing. I must say you are great at encouraging new editors both on my page and elsewhere. I see you are no longer officially Tsistunagiska but I thought it was a great name while it lasted. I've also seen you have started telling people you are Asareel and I remember you told us about other names you had been called when you were a child in Italy. Quite a mystery -- but an interesting mystery to be solved in due course. To change the subject, I was really sorry to hear you were suffering from leukemia. I hope the prognosis is good. When I was in hospital having an operation at the beginning of last year, I also continued to write articles on Wikipedia. The doctors thought I was crazy but it helped to keep my spirits up and no one noticed any lack of activity. I know quite a number of people who have fully recovered from cancer and the like -- so keep smiling! And let me know when you are ready to create more women's biographies. We can work on them together.--Ipigott (talk) 16:30, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ipigott, I assume that was my middle name, Genevieve. My Papa and Grandfather used that quite often growing up. I got into trouble a lot, childish things really. I was very adventurous, especially after coming to Montana and Alaska. I was given a different name at birth. My parents wanted me to have an English and a Cherokee name but when my mother died my father pretty much gave up on life. That's how I ended up in Italy. It's a long winding story back to Germany and World War II but that's where my father and Papa's family originated as part of the Jewish community. After being adopted by my uncle and aunt they had my name changed to Asareel Genevieve and its kind of stuck with me since, even after learning of my true heritage and birth names. --ARoseWolf16:39, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have three brothers and four sisters (Jeremiah, Sarai, Jael, Atarah, Gabriel, Zemira and Micah). Jimi and Micah live with me here. Jimi has a wife, Camille, and they have four children (Melody, Corrie, Jonathan and Luke). My daughter's name is Ariana, she's almost 10 now. My adoption of her was finalized over a year ago.--ARoseWolf16:48, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Somethings are better left a mystery while others I have no issue sharing. I often have cautioned others on other platforms where I have conversed socially, Wikipedia not one of them beyond what I have, that I've held poachers at gunpoint and hunted most everything with four or two legs that have walked on our land at some point. I love my isolation when I need or want it but we are social creatures and we love communication so I don't mind offering what knowledge I can. In regards to welcoming others to Wikipedia, I feel it is, perhaps, the single most important thing anyone can do. We create great masterpieces of art and literature at amazing paces. I am impressed by the number of articles one editor can make in a week or month. But if we can build an encyclopedia that fosters creativity through kindness and acceptance then we can reach heights and depths we have never been and have influences on places we may never be able to go. A few simple words of kindness is all it takes to make a start. --ARoseWolf17:02, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for reviving my memory. You really should start writing your autobiography. I have helped several writers publish their first works. If you want me to help you along, we could communicate by email. It looks like a great story which needs to be told.--Ipigott (talk) 17:07, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ipigott, I'd love to do that. I have kept journals since I was about 10 years old. I probably have a hundred or more. It was my Mama's remedy for what she felt was a restless Spirit. My grandmother wanted me to explore so she was the one who took me places and fostered that side of me. --ARoseWolf17:12, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thar sounds great. My email is ipigott at yahoo dot com (as stated on my user page). Drop me an email message and we can start working on a development strategy. For your information, I never ask for any financial compensation for my assistance. I'm just happy to help people along -- as on Wikipedia. In my professional life, I have helped with projects involving Nazi concentration camps, especially Stutthof. One of my closest friends while in Canada, was a Pole who survived Nazi incarceration. I could continue... --Ipigott (talk) 17:54, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
A gift for you
Others are better with words than I could ever hope to be; however, I did want you to know that I care too. I offer the following:
Fresh cut rose with one of my wolf statues
Another one of my wolf statues with a rose
One of my bigger wolf statues - but not the right expression.
One of our roses in the wild.
cropped from original with a bit of photoshop work
The color of those roses outside are amazing. So vibrant. I'm seeing a bluish pink, purple, and red mix of color in them. They are beautiful. I can smell their petals. So pretty. --ARoseWolf12:19, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oh heavens no .. I just took the pics. Picked up the roses when I was out shopping, had the idea a few days ago, and it gave me an excuse to use my Nikon. I saw you were going through some tough times, and just wanted to try to give you a reason to smile a little. — Ched (talk) 15:15, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I am so touched that you would think about doing this for me. I love my Nikon camera. I hope you don't mind that I saved them and sent them to my sister-in-law back home. It was very sweet of you and made my day very bright when I saw them. Thank you, Ched. --ARoseWolf15:30, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your kind message on my article on Mary Beth Heffernan (Artist). which was approved.
Happy you added WIR project tag to the talk page!
I will certainly watch the project Women in Red and keep in touch.
Many thanks again!
@Amanda scott:, thank you for responding and you are most welcome. I was taught a long time ago that it doesn't cost me anything to be nice. I am a firm believer that a little kindness can and will go a long way towards building strong relationships between people. I also understand the difficulties of trying to get articles into main space and I believe you did excellent work with this article. Feel free to join the project if you wish. We very much value every voice. Happy editing, Amanda. It is so great to meet you. --ARoseWolf15:57, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I was not accusing you of having not read the article on Cornelia Chase Brant. Please know I respect you as an editor. I think this was just a case of you not seeing the url link I had posted. Best.4meter4 (talk) 16:36, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
4meter4, I had not seen the article link you posted but, having read it some things jump out to me. The use of "many" in this sense is potentially misleading. According to the link, by the late 1860's there were three women's medical schools and "several" co-educational schools offering medical degrees but it never lists them and never states what its sources are to determine what "several" means. In the article on the Women's Medical College of Pennsylvania it very clearly states it was the second institution to offer a M.D. degree for women. Yes, it was founded in 1850 and began offering medical degrees to women at that time. The article link you posted only mentions five institutions after the 1860's that it highlighted as offering medical degrees (Harvard, University of Michigan, University of California, Syracuse University, Georgetown and John Hopkins) to women. After rioting, Harvard rescinded and the women currently enrolled dropped out. Harvard did not allow women in the medical program again until 1945. While it only mentioned these five institutions it said that coeducation was becoming more common however they do not include inline citations so it is hard to see where they obtained their sources to determine this nor do they reference any statistics to show just what threshold was met to determine something has become "more common". More common than what? The article claims that between 1870 and 1900, the number of women that had received a medical degree and were practicing had grown from 500 to 7,000. Do the math and that is only an average of 216 doctors a year nationwide over that 30 year span. I wouldn't call that a significant number once the facts are laid out. I think we can also agree that if only 4% of medical degrees given in any single year went to women that doesn't represent a high number and it can be disputed that this is the indication that the practice was becoming significantly "more common", especially since it had lowered to only 2 to 3% by 1904. As to your comments directed at me, I don't take them personal. I stated my peace and I walked away from the AfD. I do not intend to return to that AfD. The results will be what they are. Best to you. --ARoseWolf17:34, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Rosewolf, I didn’t make any comments directed at you other than starting that you didn’t read the article I posted and were ignoring evidence, which you just admitted was the case. I think you owe me an apology for lashing out at me in anger and accusing me of not being civil, when clearly I was a pointing out a mistake on your part which you did in fact make. Lastly, the statistical evidence in this article: http://beckerexhibits.wustl.edu/mowihsp/health/medcoedus.htm#:~:text=It%20was%20many%20years%20before,97%20(61%25)%20admitted%20women. states that 61% of all medical schools in the United States admitted women in 1904. So I think the use of the word “many” by the author in the article I posted was neither misleading or inappropriate but accurate. Yes, graduate numbers were smaller. And yes there were increasing barriers for women. Nobody disagrees with you. And I voted keep from the beginning with this AFD. Can’t you just simply admit that you made some assertions which were inaccurate, learn for from the evidence, and be nice to the people who are taking the time to dialogue with you when you make a mistake? I just don’t get the hostility here.4meter4 (talk) 18:09, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
4meter4, there is no hostility on my part. It is hard to say I am ignoring something I haven't read so your claims were baseless in the beginning. The fact that I now dispute that the evidence shows a significant increase in women gaining accredited medical degrees that allowed them to practice medicine once they graduated without being provided the sources and raw date used to make those claims is not ignoring either. I am asking for a source that shows this represented a significant leap forward in women's education or that justifies that a woman who received a medical degree, was able to overcome every hurdle that women had to once they graduated, and was able to make a meaningful career from this somehow became common in the late 1800's and early 1900's. As opposed to what? I would need to see raw data and comparisons to make that assessment. The link provided by Joelle does not mention total number of colleges and universities in the US in 1904 that offered accredited medical degrees vs how many accepted women. It only mentions medical schools which was 160, of which 61% did accept women. That is a fact. There were potentially thousands of institutions in the US at this time. 160 is just a fraction and the 97 that accepted women is an even smaller number. Perhaps the overall number would show what you are trying to assert here. Perhaps it wouldn't. We don't know because they don't provide their direct sources. As to your comments that were directed at me. I did believe your were uncivil, initially, but when you came here and asserted that there was miscommunication I did agree with you. If you want a formal apology for that then you have it, I apologize for not knowing you were referring to the link you provided and making assertions you were talking about the article being discussed at the AfD. I still do not believe it should be common (there is that word again) practice to question another editor and then try to find out if there was miscommunication after the fact. The "A" in AfD is "Article". We are discussing the notability of a subject in said article. That is what I focus on. The link you provided is to a source for your argument that is not in the article in question. Had it been called a source for your argument I would have known what you meant. The course of action you chose for this AfD is irrelevant to the discussion we had. I am genuinely sorry if I offended you with my being straightforward in defense against comments I felt at the time were uncivil. I wont comment on any further assertions you have made about me and choose to drop this conversation where it is unless you wish to continue. I leave that up to your discretion. Have a great rest of your day. :) --ARoseWolf19:05, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
4meter4, Let me also add that nothing you have said or done has diminished my respect for you as a person or my belief that you are an amazing editor and a positive part of this community. In no way does it challenge your importance to the encyclopedia or denote any form of hostility going forward. I have had discussions with many like this before. I respect them and have worked with them since. It's a personal disagreement of what these particular sources are saying and the significance of what they are saying. I don't think either of us need to apologize for our personal positions on that matter. I am not trying to convince you to change or alter your opinions. --ARoseWolf19:24, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think you are being a bit disingenuous. I clearly posted an article for you to read with a blue url link, and you simply mis read my post and proceeded to react out of that misunderstanding. It wasn't my claim that was baseless, but your response to my post that missed the url link in that post. I in turn thought you had seen the article, and chose to not read it and made my comment about ignoring information. Regardless, it's just best we let this go. Lastly, I think the "raw data" you are asking for as evidence is not realistically available or recreatable within historic research. That kind of data can only be generated through qualitative research using carefully designed surveys with living subjects. That sort of study wasn't even being done until the 1980s in small pockets, and really didn't start becoming more accepted in academia until the last 20 years. Unfortunately 19th and 20th century researchers were not asking those kinds of questions while these women were alive, and there is no way to realistically generate data of that nature today. We can document the stories of individual historical women and their careers if they left diaries, letters, etc. which address those kinds of questions, and try to make those narratives representative of women as a whole. But asking for raw data across women doctors of this era about their lived experience within their careers is not possible for any researcher and study. Best.4meter4 (talk) 20:59, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
One more comment, the assertion that there were potentially thousands of medical schools in the United States is ridiculous. There have never been even 200 med schools at any one time in the United States in its entire history. Even today we only have 154 M.D. programs and 38 D.O. programs in the United States. We have a verified and exacting number of medical schools in the United States from 1904: 160 schools. No more, no less. The Flexner Report was thorough and comprehensive in its report, and its accuracy is widely accepted in historical research. Of those 160 extent schools, 91 accepted women.4meter4 (talk) 22:43, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
4meter4, If you feel I am being disingenuous then why post anything after that? You may have made good points after your accusational statement but you have now lost me as an audience. I would never accuse you as being disingenuous, especially if you directly stated you were being genuine. Please don't respond. I really wish you the best and up to this point I have lost no respect for you. --ARoseWolf00:02, 10 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I came across this by accident. One of the was to prevent disagreements of this sort is to avoid the use of vague adjectives. "Many" is a term that has no exact definition. For example, as there became an increasing number of women who were physicians, the least ambiguous way to show this is not to rely on wording, but to give briefly the numbers. The reader can decide on the significance. There may often not be full data year by year, or it may be necessary to summarize. but this can still be done with some quantitative information decade by decade, or for whatever data points are available. A further way to clarify the significance is to use comparative data: show the increase as compared to the increase in other professions, such as law, or as compared to other countries. As 4meter4 says, this still leaves ambiguities that require further analysis and where there may well be insufficient data--in this instance, for example, how many of them continued to practice full time for how many years; how much did they earn; in which fields did they practice; how many of them were also married; how many had children; how many d husbands also physicians. There is probably also inadequate data that might explain motivations: howmany were from families where their fathers may have been physicians; what were their social class and ethnic origins; whcih colleges and preparatory schools did they attend. And raw numbers sometimes need further breakdown: of the 91/160 who accepted women in 1904, what were the proportions? How did the total and percentage figures vary after that from year to year? Was there an effect from each of the two world wars?
All this is complementary to the biographical data on individuals: for those where we know details from autobiographies of historical research, how representative were they? Throughout much of history there were professions, like medicine, where there were some, but very few women, and a focus on these exceptional individuals can be misleading. But on the other hand such biographies can be the only way of getting at psychological and social factors.
T:here's something else, which I can only ask about, because i have never seen information: during the period before Flexner, there were a considerable number of low quality medical schools before and after Flexner, and continuing to our day there have been quasi-medical and alternative-medicine fields. To what extent did women participate in them? If they did, was it because they could not get admitted to orthodox routes, or because they were more open to alternative practices? A \ DGG ( talk ) 23:48, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, DGG, but it didn't help that I was in pain and I should have just walked away from the conversation when I needed to. 4meter4 is an extremely intelligent and valuable editor here and I used very vague descriptors, too, that probably shouldn't have been used. That being said, I was not being disingenuous with anything I said. Had I meant anything sarcastic I would have said so. Nothing women faced in that day was common or simple. I pointed out the year that the Nineteenth amendment was passed in the US because up to 1848 women couldn't even own land and some of those sentiments extended into the early to mid-20th century as well. The hurdles and obstacles a woman had to overcome just to get an education, let alone, become a successful entrepreneur or professional in whatever field she wanted to go into were astounding. Then she faced the uphill battle of overcoming the stereotyping and stigmatizations of others for not following the "acceptable path" a woman should follow. This resurged in the mid-20th century. Most of this happened pre-internet and there were few sympathetic media sources one can draw upon. As you have stated, the numbers are not always as they seem. There are many factors involved here and focusing on one set of numbers as a means to say it had seemingly become commonplace is where I took issue. It may not have been as difficult as prior to 1848 but it was still not common. A great example of this is the ridicule that Isabel Cobb faced from peers in medical journals for accepting non-monetary means of payment for services she gave to Cherokee and Muscogee people in Indian Country during the turn of the 19th century. Women, in any profession, were regarded as second class throughout the late 19th and early 20th centuries. All I wanted from the conversation was a further breakdown because it seemed too easy to just say, well, 61% of medical schools accepted women so that's a majority. It, likewise, felt too easy to say women doctors jumped from 500 to 7000 over three decades and that's proof it had become a common occurrence. If 4% of medical graduates in a single year were women then that meant 96% were not women. That was my point. These numbers alone would denote it was an amazing feat for a woman to overcome all the obstacles, adversities and social pressures to start and complete medical school earning a degree and then become successful at a medical profession as a M.D. or general practitioner, period. --ARoseWolf13:39, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
ARoseWolf, yes, I understand. Personally, most of the women I know from the generation before mine were labor activists. Even in my own generation, I've know a number of women physicians who entered the profession after allied careers as social workers, lab technicians, and the like.
DGG, thank you for the thought. The best thing anyone can do for me is to just keep living and being who you are. Learn and grow as people and be kind to one another. --ARoseWolf12:34, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Update
They took another bone marrow sample. Both treatments have failed. Brian and my brothers flew down yesterday and we are meeting with the doctors today to see what the next step is. I just wanted to let my friends here know the status. --ARoseWolf13:57, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Look in your mind's eye and you will see me sitting there with you holding your hand, passing the strength from my body to yours. It's okay to be scared on the adventure (I change meds today with great trepidation), but, stay strong, continue fighting and singing as long as you are able. SusunW (talk) 12:50, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
My thoughts are with you, and were during a family gathering (hard core) over the weekend with much music and good meetings, when I took the pic of another rose, - look and see what's healthy for you. Our parents celebrated their 50th anniversary in the church that now had a baptism (same nice woman for pastor, same song). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:59, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! This is exactly what I needed. I dreamed about going to the opera with you, Gerda. Oh, the tones and notes were lovely. I wanted to dance again as I did when I was a teen taking ballet. Such an amazing experience walking through the garden and smelling all the flowers in bloom. Such a beautiful chat as we sat on a bench and bees zoomed around us collecting their pollen. And then I dreamed of visiting with you, Susun, for a cup of tea and a nice chat about our travels and experiences. We took a hike to some of your favorite places. And you have such beautiful cats. I think they would like me. I know mine misses her Mama. I got on a call with my daughter and Persephone was meowing so loud when she heard my voice, even rubbed her face on the mic and was purring. I bet my pups miss me too. It can get scary, not knowing, but the adventure of life is worth the pains. We don't often get to choose our path in life but we can determine how we view it and, to some degree, how we respond to it. I choose to live. My Song will not end this way. They have decided to go for a third round with some changeups. It's a different type of chemo focused on a different type of leukemia cell. They believe there is a correct combination but we have to find it. We will find it and I will beat this but I will need and am so thankful for your love, support and kind words. They keep me strong. Thank you both for the visit last night and I cant wait for more. --ARoseWolf13:32, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) "They believe there is a correct combination but we have to find it" sounds very much like, "we have found that changing your meds offers better odds" (well in Spanish, of course LOL). Does your hospital allow your critters to visit (some do)? My nurse cat, Rusty (whom my house manager calls oxidado), always seems to know when I need his gentle presence. The adventure is definitely worth whatever obstacles are tossed in the path. I am a firm believer that we never learn anything if we don't make mistakes or have to overcome challenges. It is all about letting go of striving for perfection and instead celebrating opportunities. SusunW (talk) 14:05, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
SusunW, It could be that. I'm not sure how chemotherapy works but its hard for me to see how any treatment would not kill something. I probably need to ask more questions. The doctor will be making a round today so maybe I will ask that very thing. I suspect that its not killing enough cancer cells and that's why they are switching up. They are giving me only one treatment, rather than two concurrently, this time and it will be for five days as opposed to seven. They start today. We'll see how it goes. --ARoseWolf15:00, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, as I said, they changed my meds today. Last time I had a ton of weird side effects, who knows what will happen this time? It will unfold as it does and I will adjust. SusunW (talk) 15:51, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you all for your prayers, thoughts and well wishes. It means so much. Please, please please, keep them coming. SusunW, you are amazing! I know you will adjust as you always do. I am here for you as you are here for me. --ARoseWolf16:52, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
How are you doing? Hoping you wake feisty and singing. I am drinking coffee on the patio and a flock of parrots just flew overhead. So far, no noticeable side effects. SusunW (talk) 13:04, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
SusunW, It was difficult for a few hours there. This new treatment hit me hard but Asareel never stays down for long. Come back up fighting (lol). I'm always a little feisty, I'm an Aquarian. Not just that but my birthday is February 14th so I'm a Valentine Aquarian. Ha! Love, Peace, Joy, Wisdom, Life, Passion, Creativity - These are the aspects of who we are as humans. They also correspond with a color of the Rainbow and, as I hear it, a musical note in the Song of Life that we all play on the strings of our existence. Our Song's are unique but they are the same notes as all other humans have been before us. Sometimes we are so impacted by other Song's that part of their Song becomes part of ours. This is how they live on. Even though they may be gone from our lives, they are still with us. Even though, one day, no one will specifically remember the sound of their Song the same notes will remain because they are a part of all of us. The same colors will still paint our lives and those that follow. I love meditation and the songs that are born from it. :)--ARoseWolf13:55, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Wild River
I'm working on my next little project though. Anyone with a geological prowess or a desire to help, provided you aren't swamped with your projects which are more important for sure, is welcome to help, User:ARoseWolf/Wild River (Alaska). Most of my knowledge is first hand which doesn't help much in the grand scheme of things, however I have found some good sources, mostly government sources and topographic maps. --ARoseWolf16:52, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
We have a float plane base on the southwestern shore of the lake and a gravel air strip on the southeastern shore near the creek that ran from the old mine. There is a smaller airstrip further up the creek on the north side but its never used anymore. Most of the heavy equipment is on the eastern shore of the lake. We use ATV's during Summer and dogsleds during Winter to keep trails clear. Most of the housing and supplementary buildings are on the western side of the lake though we have cabins located in multiple locations around the lake, the valley and up into the surrounding mountains. --ARoseWolf17:41, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
July corner
On DYK today, as you noticed, two songs as if especially for you, a morning song that a cousin gave to me, about the many meanings of rising, and the other praying for courage to take the necessary steps. The morning song is a GA, - there should be more given my initials, but I also want to care for articles of those who recently died (now Esther Béjarano), and of psalms in memory of Yoninah, - more missing than there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:24, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda Arendt, Muuuuaaaahhhh!(blowing a kiss) You are a blessing, my friend. A light so bright I need to put my shades on just to see your face. Keep singing, Gerda. I hear you! --ARoseWolf19:16, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have read with interest your talk page and contributions for a long time, though I don't know if we have interacted before. Your grace is admirable. This quote, I found a day or two ago, reminds me of you; it was written in the context of lesbian (auto)biography and historiography, but it resonates with indigenous and other history-making, too.
Urve, Your words honor me greatly. We may have an impact on others in ways we never know but if you have thought of me then we have interacted in even the smallest of ways. My hope is not just that my Song would have a lasted affect on my fellow humanity but that I would be willing to listen and allow others to impact me. That is how we evolve and grow our character. Your Song has done this. Thank you, Rainbow. --ARoseWolf17:31, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for this... On the day she died, a dear friend wrote: "How does one speak truth to power when power already knows the truth?" Maybe you are different than me, but the impossibility of representation, of some things, those which are so powerful they deceive us, like love and humility and grace, troubles me - you wrote above about journaling, and that speaks to a closer truth than anything ever can. Maybe not a factual truth - we always find ourselves remembering things differently than they happened, each memory remembering not the event but the last time we remembered it - but certainly, the emotive truth, which may matter more.
I have always been enamored by your idea, of listening to others and letting them impact us, unreservedly, allowing ourselves to be washed over by the music. We are as much ourselves as we are those we love. Urve (talk) 18:27, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Urve: Yes! They are part of us, completely. Our Song was carried and nurtured by them for many years and now we carry their Song in us. Having an open ear to listen for the Song of others and allowing it to impact and become a part of who you are is so difficult of a task to master. So many build walls around themselves. Nothing can pass through walls and it isolates us from each other. What we should be building are filters. I am just as guilty as the next for building walls. It's so natural to do. Filters allow the free flow of information, ideas, emotions and communication but can also protect us from dangers. It allows us to breathe and expand or contract as we need to. This is very necessary on Wikipedia. Too often we are confronted with walls. It's hard to communicate and build upon the foundation of the encyclopedia when everything is walled off. Confrontation and agitation is around every corner. It is such a pleasure when we encounter those with filters in place that want to hear and listen to ideas, even if they disagree. They want to communicate and are open to change. That is most beneficial to the encyclopedia. It is also essential to our lives if we are to truly thrive in this existence. --ARoseWolf13:29, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Wishing you well
Hey there ARoseWolf, I saw that you changed your name. I also noticed that you are dealing with a serious health issue right now, and wanted to say hello and wish you well. I hope that you have a complete recovery and that the medicine does the trick. It sounds like you are in good spirits, and are surrounded by excellent care-givers. I have found from my own experience that when the going gets rough, Wikipedia is an excellent hobby to get one's mind in a creative place. Hope the Wild River and Wild Lake articles are coming along swimmingly. Netherzone (talk) 16:12, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Netherzone. I did change my name. This seemed more fitting for me though I still give credit to my inspiration on my User page. It is always good to hear from you and I love hearing these experiences and how others dealt with them. Being here has been a help to me, more than I can express. All of you are such an encouragement. The articles are coming along. They will get to the place where they are ready when the time is right. Thank you again for the well wishes. --ARoseWolf16:21, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It warms my heart to see your posts, as they mean you are fighting and able to work. Even if that is a bit here and there, it helps with our progress. Know that every day as I write, you are in my thoughts. SusunW (talk) 12:36, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I am a warrior. I have fought my entire life, sometimes without even knowing. It's in my blood, pun intended (lol). I am still singing, Susun. I know its easy to say but I want each of you to know that I do feel your thoughts directed at me and I appreciate them more than I could ever express. Thank you for sending me your positive thoughts. Instead of growing weak, I grow stronger because of it. Love will win this fight. Life will win this fight. --ARoseWolf12:44, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I hear you and understand. It is indeed the gift of people in our lives that make the fight worthwhile, that help us appreciate the beauty (and the ugliness) of life and that push us forward. SusunW (talk) 12:54, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@SusunW and Gerda Arendt: Had a fever that spiked to 106 before it finally broke last night. Imm may not be on much today. I depends on how I feel. They took me for xray to try and find the second infection. As of yet unknown. I am better today but they have on oxygen. --ARoseWolf15:00, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Please take care of yourself. Hope they are able to discover the cause of infection. Sending you positive thoughts and strength. SusunW (talk) 15:24, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, SusunW. The fluids, anti-biotics and oxygen seem to be working their magic but time will tell. They don't have a clue where to begin with the infection so they want to treat it broadly and see if that takes care of it. In regards to Wikipedia, I saw this today and my heart lept with joy. Vivaldi is one of my favorite composers and I found several arrangements of Italian classical music to keep me occupied and fill my heart with the beautiful reminders of my adventures in the Italian countryside. --ARoseWolf19:01, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
SusunW, Cello is one of the instruments I have learned to play though I am no where near professional level on any of them. I used to take my pan flutes and various singing bowls out to play for the eagles when they returned during the short summer months. They sure do bring a smile. --ARoseWolf19:30, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Love you finding yourself what I wanted to tell you when back from another outing with other friends, red roses, pics perhaps tomorrow, - I am behind with some taken sooner. I hope you found those new today, covering last weekend, 17 18 19. Keep that page watched, please. Vivaldi: the cellist who played for us the first two movements of No. 6 of the Vivaldi thought there wasn't much to tell about these pieces, - I'll tell him he was wrong ;) - That Largo should bring fever down. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:26, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda Arendt, watched!! I used to listen to Vivaldi all the time. I need to get back to that place again. It does so much more than bring the fever down, it has always lifted my soul. Thank you for sharing and bringing back those memories. :) --ARoseWolf20:37, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello ARoseWolf -- With the goal of helping to progress the WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) women’s rights-themed GA nomination goal for 2021, I’m proposing that WiG hold a special editathon event in the fall (maybe October/November?). I can assist with logistics, but I need to know how much interest/support there might be from WiG participants first. Please let me know what you think in the talk page conversation! All the best, Alanna the Brave (talk) 02:32, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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I really hate to see you having a bad day (mentioned above). Get the temp. down, and get back to mending your body. Get well - that's an order. ;-) — Ched (talk) 20:48, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ched, Bad days are relative. I can't truly have a bad day when I am still living life and learning and experiencing. The fever is gone and my temp is normal again, albeit with a little help from antibiotics. I am severely neutropenic so my body can't fight off infections right now. I've never taken so many medications in all my life but I am thankful it is here because it gives me a fighting chance and that's really all this warrior can ask for. One way or another, I am determined to live life to the end, regardless of when that is. I am restrained to these white walls, physically, but my Spirit still roams free over land and ocean, valley and mountain. If you were one of my brothers I would tell you where you could put those orders (I told you I am feisty) but because you are such a good friend I will accept and follow that order. Thank you, Ched. You are amazing! --ARoseWolf12:32, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hopefully you will escape those 4 white walls soon. I think positive that you will have a long, healthy, and very happy life ahead. Sending cyber-hugs your way. — Ched (talk) 13:19, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate your boldness in expressing what is a somewhat unpopular view on Jimmy’s page. I don’t necessarily agree, but you definitely have expressed it in a thoughtful way and it’s a valid viewpoint. And I agree we should focus on writing articles and not be slave to any particular metric! - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 14:32, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Aussie Article Writer, you prove the point that we don't have to agree to appreciate each other. :) Thank you for the kind remarks. I will admit that I find myself not sharing very often because of multiple reasons. I know many others feel the same. They don't want to bring attention to themselves because of a valid fear of being singled out. For me it is that I often have felt the intimidation of not knowing the proper wikilinks to policies and the wikilawyering. I tend to respond out of the general knowledge of what Wikipedia is with a personal spin that I acknowledge is my own. It's not polished by any means but it's genuine and comes from a good place. I don't really mind taking an unpopular stance when I know it is valid, relevant and genuine. If it is not reality then I generally will admit that as evidence is brought forward and my view of it changes. I, for the most part, won't be afraid to speak up because of experiences in the past which kept me silent. Again, thank you. The key to our collaborative success is kindness. --ARoseWolf15:07, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Friend, that I agree with. I have to constantly remind myself of this one core fact every day. In fact, I really need to remember that even when others were unkind to me, the urge to do likewise is not healthy, or acceptable. I gotta work on this, one day at a time. - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 15:38, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Your message on my talk page on fr-wp concerning les sans pagEs
Hi, thank you for your message on my talk page on fr-wp! Do you think you could share the link to the project you are doing for Women in red? I would really appreciate.
Also your message seems to be an automatic translation, and some passages are a little unclear, but you can write to me in English if you wish. Warm regards, Nattes à chat (talk) 19:14, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nattes à chat, no, its probably my French. I grew up in Italy near Provence and my rendition of Parisian French is probably a bit off. Who knows, I may have snuck in some Italian. Ha! If you want to check out the list I am working on you can see here, User:ARoseWolf/Wikipedia Projects Supporting Women. This is just a start and any additional information on Les sans PagEs would be greatly appreciated. --ARoseWolf19:26, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I’m not sure if it was you or RudolfRed who gave me the answer of “even if you misplaced your mobile device, if you purchase a new device, and login with your Apple ID, the FreeOTP app should still recognize you” in retrospect, I dont even know how or why I didn’t think of that before asking the question, that was a no-brainer, it crossed my mind today. Thanks to you both once again. Celestina007 (talk) 17:00, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Historical overview of projects supporting women
Hi! Thank you for starting this. I don't know if my edits/additions were helpful vs. not in line with what you were envisioning. Please let me know, as I'd be happy to remove anything which isn't a good fit. --Rosiestep (talk)
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